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Just a reminder Frank, quote "that one would naturally believe you to be on benefits" followed by if I am wrong please accept my apology.

What can I say? you took my last posts personally, it was a generalisation about how different people perceive things, I know good decent people who work but also struggle to live a reasonable lifestyle, yet would give their last penny to help, they are good decent human beings, which is more than can be said for those that purport to run our country.

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Come on Frank, nowhere did I say or imply that you were born with the proverbial silver spoon, you took my generalisations and applied them to your self, yes I have criticised your political leanings, and not all employers are as generous as you claim to have been. So like it or not Trade Unions have a place to protect those that are being abused and underpaid, they have a long history of championing the working class against the excesses of nasty vicious governments, whom only interest is money and profit, that is why this present government wish to water down further any rights they have to protect workers, what kind of people want to deny others their human rights, their safety at work and their right to fight unfair dismissal, the likes of dodgy Dave and Gideon have never gotten their hands dirty ( well maybe with their underhanded dealings)and have no idea how the majority of people in this country live, and if they don't understand that then how can they preside fairly in government?

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THE GOOD NEWS indeed
More taxpayer's money to be used instead of billionaire owner dipping into his loose change
Yesterday, Treasury officials involved in negotiating a £125million infrastructure loan to Ineos said they had to ask for more information from the company over the complex financial structure.

The Scottish government have also chipped in with £9million of grants, making a total of £134million.

Ineos appeared to have presented their accounts in a way which emphasised their need for an urgent injection of finance to underwrite future infrastructure costs.

An source close to yesterday’s talks between the UK Government and bosses said: “There was a fear this could be a tactic to secure more Government investment.


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Yes its amazing how money can magically appear from under the mattress when the need arises, our armed forces will be at a loose end shortly no doubt more money will be found to embroil them into another conflict not of our making, incidentally, this government is always at pains to tell us how much the welfare system costs this country, I wonder how that weighs against the cost of the middle eastern fiasco in monetary terms, we know the cost in human terms.

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We are proud to present the most comprehensive survey to date regarding the Bedroom Tax. We need as many people as possible to complete this survey in order to demonstrate what is happening to everyone affected by it. This is extremely important, not only to help those in higher positions to understand the impact of it, but this survey is also a way of identifying how the Bedroom Tax is affecting a cross-section of society in a very detailed way.
We would like to explain what your lives were like before the Bedroom Tax, also, certain situations, for example: if you have a child near a birthday which qualifies for another room, so moving home would be inappropriate.
In our survey, we seek to highlight all the issues that this Coalition Government would wish us to ignore, and the consequences both personally and for society. Our aim is to help protect those affected by the Bedroom Tax, because we can no longer trust the Government to fulfill their obligations to society, and their legal duty to protect the vulnerable.
So please complete this survey, if you wish to make a difference. It really is up to you to help us tell the reality of how it affects you and your family.

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Im thinking of marching, protesting for all those effected with having their wages frozen, their hours cut,overtime stopped,who now don't earn enough wages to pay their mortgage or even pay for heating and food to look after their families.

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Originally Posted by SUExx
Im thinking of marching, protesting for all those effected with having their wages frozen, their hours cut,overtime stopped,who now don't earn enough wages to pay their mortgage or even pay for heating and food to look after their families.
Excellent idea thumbsup
There are plenty who would join you. smile

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Originally Posted by SUExx
Im thinking of marching, protesting for all those effected with having their wages frozen, their hours cut,overtime stopped,who now don't earn enough wages to pay their mortgage or even pay for heating and food to look after their families.
Excellent idea thumbsup
There are plenty who would join you. smile



I know, trouble is we would be a nation on a permanent march or protest.

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Just been thinking......Were you there at the protest against T and C,for council workers at the Full Council Meeting? I forget the date now.

It was the one where they opened the Civic Hall to allow the 500+ plus Council Workers and Supporters in to liste2n in to proceedings......

Did not spot you_very strange!

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(assuming you still work for the Council, of course)

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I think the base point is Frank that these so called private enterprise companies keep returning to the tax payer when anything needs doing, they are akin to bad landlords that rent out at inflated prices and don't carry out any repairs and when challenged push up rents to pay the costs or sell the properties.

The big six energy companies have the monopoly on supplying our energy, yet they bleat about the cost maintaining the distribution and maintenance the same as the railways, they want all the profit but expect the customer to pay for the maintenance and supply, don't forget these utilities were part of Thatchers big sell off at a knockdown price, ask Sid.

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The last march i saw that was against Bedroom tax was mostly kids and hardly any adults.So basically the kids dont know what they are marching for.Some of the bedroom tax i do agree with some i don t.But as you say Frank,There is no such thing .Just an excuse to cause noise as no one listens anyway.

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Originally Posted by Candlyfloss
Just an excuse to cause noise as no one listens anyway.


My thoughts too.

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Originally Posted by Candlyfloss
The last march i saw that was against Bedroom tax was mostly kids and hardly any adults.So basically the kids dont know what they are marching for.Some of the bedroom tax i do agree with some i don t.But as you say Frank,There is no such thing .Just an excuse to cause noise as no one listens anyway.
Some of your ambiguous post has been covered here, in the following link.

This post is nonsense. You agree with the Bedroom Tax 'in some ways' and 'not in other ways' BUT then agree that Bedroom lTax does not exist????? How can you agree with something 'part time' that does not, in your opinion even exist??????




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