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Casper I hope you will join us at the conference and take part in a workshop and enjoy the debate, we will give you lunch and a cuppa. The white queen is something like our unelected government. regards Bennie.

Sadly, Bennie and others of similar mindsets, this is not a tax but a re-visitation of claimant's rights.When some people have spare rooms and others do not have enough rooms to live comfortably and privately then the nation has a big problem.The re-visitation of of benefits is absolutely right but due to successive government failures there are not enough smaller places for people to move into.However the government have put aside a "warchest" to help people in real need. To Frank1940, you really need to consider yourself very lucky to have never had to claim any benefits whatsoever. I certainly do put myself in that category.I had to move my family to a London suburb in the late 1970s as my job and many others were disappearing fast.Not everybody is in a position to do that.

Where are all these over-occupied families?
Last year Magenta (wph) had 33 void 3 bed properties. Now Magenta have 163 void 3 bed properties

Source: FOI request
Will probably be on their website.

In the meantime W.B.C can offer 0.7% of the demand for one beds.

Source: FOI request

Yes, Frank we had no poll tax either, you have swallowed the Tory lie hook line and sinker.

You made a statement, "when those I am talking about have never worked" but what about those that have worked and lost their jobs Frank? shall we point the finger and stigmatise them? because that's what this government is doing, the same old divide and conquer, and when they have finished demonising the aged, the unemployed the sick and disabled and the Trade unions, who will they come for then Frank? sounds familiar doesn't it? beware those that don't fit into the Tory ideology or those that live North of the Watford Gap.

Easier said than done eh Frank, for those that have lost their minimum wage type jobs, let me see, Ive got a good idea I shall start my own business, but don't you need capital? borrow it, but I cant afford to pay my rent as it is, tough you should have done better at school, but I did I have a degree, but there are no jobs in my chosen profession, and if there were I would still have to pay back my uni fees.

Go and see Frank he's got all the answers, but a word of warning if you have a flat screen TV or you subscribe to sky, you are beyond help, how dare you fritter your wages away on such frivolities, your a second class citizen and its about time you realised it, after all the unemployed caused all this, so you have to pay.

casper if wiki had a like button i'd be pressing it right now!!!

Well, at least you have that right. The fact that most people choose to call the Community Charge the "Poll Tax" doesn't make it so.
Oh, and I suspect you meant Watford, which is 60 miles South of the Watford Gap.

Is that all you've got chriskay? nit picking over a location, no comment on Franks words of wisdom? it wouldn't do to call a spade a shovel now would it, I mean if the government, sorry unelected government called it a bedroom tax then everybody would know what it was, so they called it something else, it would never do to tell the truth more people might realise what a thieving lying odious bunch they are.

No, that's not all I've got; all I was asking for was accuracy so that anyone interested is at least in possession of facts. The other fact that I'd ask you to acknowledge, but I know you won't, is that the members of the government now in power obtained between them more votes than the spendthrift Labour party. We are, as a country, deeply in debt, which situation needs to be rectified. Part of the problem is, but not entirely, that the generous system of benefits discourages many people from seeking work. Frank may not have many supporters on this forum but he makes many valid points. I don't own a dog, but a look at this may be an eye opener
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-2042014/How-does-cost-dog-cat.html
My phone contract with Virgin costs me £12 a month which gives me 1200 minutes, unlimited texts and 1Gb data. The phone cost me about £60. Compare that with the cost of an iphone which as far as I can see costs at least £32/month. I don't subscribe to Sky; I have Freesat. A Sky contract is at least £21.50 a month; £22 more if you want sports.
That adds up to a lot of money which is all unnecessary spend if you're having trouble making ends meet.
That's all I have to say; I don't propose to get involved with more argument with you or any of your fellow travellers of a left wing persuasion: go and demonstrate if it makes you feel good.

Yes I certainly do acknowledge that the two parties got more votes, however that makes a coalition between the two parties, so no one single party can claim victory or can claim to be elected in its own right, I could accept the Tories if they had an overwhelming majority, but that wasn't the case, they are kept in power by the also ran party, and god forbid could be replaced by UKIP an unholy alliance if ever there was one.

As to Frank, he likes to blow his own trumpet about how well he has done, and everybody has the same opportunity, well they don't, everything is not as black and white as it in Franks world.

Well, casper, at least we agree about the UKIP scenario.

Hi Chris Kay, I notice that you overlook the fact that the whole world has been in recession not just the U.K. did Portugal Spain or Greece have a Gordon Brown governmnt? the answer is no. America fared more badly than the U.K.most parts of Europe suffered more than we did, If we had the unelected coalition that we have now we would be a lot worse off. Jam yesterday jam tomorrow but never jam today. Best regards. Bennie.

It was all the fault of the Labour party Bennie, Frank says, so it must be true, the Tories mention it in every other sentence, but the only ones I can see selling us out are the Tories, UK for sale any offers, going cheap, roubles accepted,

There you go again Frank, you don't know me nor Poker Champ, yet you imply that we are on benefits, as to word twisting you seem to be quite adept at it,and those jobs you mentioned unfortunately the market is flooded with them, and of course you failed to mention the biggest layout, a car or van, insurance etc, as I mentioned earlier we don't all live in Franks world were everything is in black and white.