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Originally Posted by Nelzy84
get on to the loose change dvd guys, interesting views from the structural engineers basically confirming the temperatures needed to melt the steel could not possibly be generated by the aviation fuel, hinting at the fact it may have had a helping hand. Good explanation of the free fall counter argument and alludes to the fact that paper passports were found intact undamaged quite a feat really given it was that hot the structural steel went, but two bakalakadakas passports (paper) survive, well what are the chances eh?
Could you pm me the link you put up ages ago, it was about the improbability of the planes hitting the targets. Sorry guys, i know im off topic!

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get on to the loose change dvd guys, interesting views from the structural engineers basically confirming the temperatures needed to melt the steel could not possibly be generated by the aviation fuel, hinting at the fact it may have had a helping hand. Good explanation of the free fall counter argument and alludes to the fact that paper passports were found intact undamaged quite a feat really given it was that hot the structural steel went, but two bakalakadakas passports (paper) survive, well what are the chances eh?
Could you pm me the link you put up ages ago, it was about the improbability of the planes hitting the targets. Sorry guys, i know im off topic!


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You don't have to melt the steel to destroy a building, just get it pretty hot and it starts to warp. It doesn't take much of a warp to start structural problems. The building already had some major structural damage from the impact of the aircraft way beyond design redundancy limits.


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True DD But if that was the case it wouldnt collapse in free fall or controlled manner it would sag and lean over the weakest point

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CLAIM: "We have been lied to," announces the Web site AttackOnAmerica.net. "The first lie was that the load of fuel from the aircraft was the cause of structural failure. No kerosene fire can burn hot enough to melt steel." The posting is entitled "Proof Of Controlled Demolition At The WTC."

FACT: Jet fuel burns at 800º to 1500ºF, not hot enough to melt steel (2750ºF). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength--and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."


but its honey comb structure was designed to take multiple impacts from bigger sized aircraft at higher velocity, if you take the time to eatch the dvd,myou cant argue with the science very interesting some very credible people including ex cia / fbi and pentagon have all spoken out some of which who were interviewed for the dvd have sadly since died,

Watch the dvd its an education hard to argue with fire fighters structural engineers and simple sciene imo,

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