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Just looking on wirralcam and there looks to be quiet a few police and police vans in the car park at fort perch rock, any one know what's going on?

they seem to be looking on the beach

I hope its nothing bad or sad

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Woman's body was found at 7am by dog walker.
Source....Radio Merseyside

Oh, no...how sad.

lady

God that's awfull:(

Oh dear

Meant to add that the police said her death at the moment is 'unexplained'.

BODY FOUND ON BEACH AT NEW BRIGHTON
Published August 29, 2011 | By Editor

The body of a woman has been found on the beach at New Brighton this morning

The body was discovered by a dog walker near Fort Perch Rock at seven o’clock this morning

The woman is believed to be in her 20s but so far the cause of death is unexplained.

mersey magazine online

It is on sky news aswell.

Breaking News on bbc (website)

thoughts go out to the family

How sad. This is the second body this year to be found round there.

Its even being reported on Sky news.

How sad - RIP.

Kev - second this year? When/where was the first?

It was April or May. I remember because it was the day after I was there the previous night doing some photography. It seemed weird as I could have stumbled upon it myself. There was a thread running on here about it at the time but I can't find it.

just saw this very sad news on the bbc website also, believed to be in her 20s.

r.i.p.

So sad! Thoughts are with her family & friends!
Such a horrible ending to the bank holiday

so sad,My thoughts are with her family at this sad time
R.i.p

Very sad news.... R.I.P

It was a 17 year old girl, she went to Upton with my daughter, we don't know what happened, but its so sad, such a waste

very sad RIP

17 - anything to do with a-level results maybe? won't speculate but its first thing that springs to mind RIP

does anybody know her name?heard a name on twitter but dont know how true it is!!!

Sad news R.I.P

Just to let you all know on here, a facebook page has not long been set up for the memory of Hayley xxxx, the young girl on the beach, no other details have been put out.....R.I.P Sweet Angel x


Admin Notice : Its very debatable if we should post the full details of a persons name in these situations. We try to think of the worse case where the information is not correct as its from a 3rd party. On wiki we only disclose the persons Full Name on the public forum if we can also link it to an official source. Facebook and such are not an official sources in our opinion. This is out of respect to local members and families. Thank you.

Tragic news. Much sympathy to her family and friends

absolutely awful

Hayley, a friend of mine. Started with a beach trip with her friends and boyfriend and ended in tragedy. 17 year old girl, full of life, unbelievable news. So sad, rest in peace Hayles x

So sad and you will sadly miss her. Sorry to hear this hun! xxxx

RIP Hayley. Sad news.

A very good looking girl who clearly had so much in front of her.

Thought go out to all family and friends, especially our mutual ones.

I agree wholeheartedly with that Mark, but to my mind it doesn't come any more official than the word of a friend of mine, who was good friends with the deceased.

17!!!

omg how awful
my dd's 16, I don't know if there is a right choice of words for something as shocking as this, I only know as a mother, it is our biggest fears and worst nightmares, my world would've ended


May you rest in peace Hayley.


Thoughts and prayers to her poor dear family and friends xxxx
I just hope & pray, they find some peace in themselves during the next couple of weeks

Seems that it's official, merseyside Police have said drowning:

http://merseymagazine.co.uk/2011/08...body-was-found-on-beach-at-new-brighton/

http://www.juicefm.com/news?id=33058

Sad, so sad.

Rest in peace Hayley, our thoughts are with the family at this moment, every parents worst nightmare.

very sad news thoughts are with family and friends

So sad such a pretty girl with her whole life ahead of her. Rest in peace.

I'm hearing that her boyfriend is still missing...

He is still missing... His family and friends are increasingly worried and ask if anyone has seen or heard from him to please get in touch.

So Sorry to hear this far too young to go, hope the boyfriend is ok

Why is this not being more widely circulated? The papers should have this story and be running with it!

It shouldn't have to be second hand info which adds to the rumour mill. I got it from a credible source but feel as though I shouldn't be passing it on for fear of getting something wrong.

Awful news RIP Hayley.

Mersey Magazine
URGENT APPEAL FOR INFORMATION ABOUT THE WHEREABOUTS OF HAYLEYS MISSING BOYFRIEND
Published August 30, 2011 | By Editor | Edit
Detectives investigating the unexplained death of Hayley Holmes are growing increasingly concerned for the welfare of her boyfriend Robbie Crofts

Hayley’s body was found on the beach at Fort Perch Rock in New Brighton, Wirral at 7am on Monday, August 29. A post mortem examination established the cause of death as drowning.

Robbie was last seen by his parents at around 8pm on Sunday night. The 21-year-old was Hayley’s boyfriend and detectives believe the pair had spent Sunday together in Liverpool city centre.

A pair of women’s sandals and a pair of men’s Converse trainers were found close to where Hayley’s body was discovered by a dog-walker on Monday morning, along with a mobile phone.

Detectives strongly believe the trainers and phone belong to Robbie and the sandals were Hayley’s.

They are extremely concerned for Robbie’s safety and welfare and are appealing for anyone who has seen Robbie since Sunday night to get in touch.

Detective Inspector Rachel Wilson from Birkenhead CID, said: “We are growing increasingly concerned for Robbie’s wellbeing and would appeal for anyone who has seen him to urgently get in touch.

“We now know that Robbie and Hayley were together on Sunday night and had spent the day at the Mathew Street music festival in Liverpool before returning to Robbie’s home in New Brighton for a short while.

“They were not seen by friends or family after around 8pm, but some of their belongings have been found on the beach, near to where Hayley’s body was found. We are understandably very concerned about Robbie, as are his family, and we would appeal for anyone with any information to get in touch.”

Robbie, who is from New Brighton, is described as being white, aged 21, of stocky build and around 5ft 8ins tall, with blue eyes and short black hair.
Detectives are treating Hayley’s death as ‘unexplained’ and Robbie’s disappearance as a missing person enquiry

Anyone with information is asked to call Birkenhead CID on 0151 777 2263

Fits with the story that they went for a swim.

FFS, I hope this doesn't turn into a double tragedy.

Come on Robbie, show your face pal!!!

fingers crossed for that

I know same here!! I can only assume someone is only classed as officially 'missing' after a certain period of time... Hoping he is found safe soon, especially for his little girls sake!!

updates;

http://merseymagazine.co.uk/turners-review/

Lets pray for robbie crofts safe return as they have found his converse & mobile phone along with hayleys sandals close to where Hayleys body was found.

My thoughts are with all the family at this worrying time

I'm sorry i typed the wrong link with this information, im not very good with computers!!

Clicky for Image of Robbie so you know who you are looking for.

All I can do is tweet the pic I guess.

Hope he's found.

there is now a pic of robbie on the memory page for hayley on facebook to help the 7000+ people help find him

hope he is found safe

r.i.p to hayleys family did not know her but thoughts go to family and friends

www.merseymagazine.co.uk

There are now growing fears for the safety of a 21 years old man from New Brighton who has not been seen since he and his girlfriend Hayley Holmes left his parents house shortly after eight o'clock on Sunday evening

17 years old Hayley's body was found on the beach by Fort Perch Rock on Monday morning and a post mortem revealed the cause of death as drowning

There has been no sight though of her boyfriend Robbie Crofts and police now believe that both Hayley and Robbie could have gone into the water at New Brighton, possibly for a swim, sometime on Sunday night or very early Monday morning

There is no official confirmation for this belief, but articles found close to where Hayley's body was discovered, suggest that the two youngsters were at the waters edge together

Police believe a pair of sandals, a pair of trainers and mobile phone found on the beach belong to the couple.

Detective Inspector Rachel Wilson from Birkenhead CID, said: "We are growing increasingly concerned for Robbie's wellbeing and would appeal for anyone who has seen him to urgently get in touch.

"We now know that Robbie and Hayley were together on Sunday night and had spent the day at the Mathew Street music festival in Liverpool before returning to Robbie's home in New Brighton for a short while.

"They were not seen by friends or family after around 8pm, but some of their belongings have been found on the beach, near to where Hayley's body was found. We are understandably very concerned about Robbie, as are his family, and we would appeal for anyone with any information to get in touch."

Robbie, who is from New Brighton, is described as being white, aged 21, of stocky build and around 5ft 8ins tall, with blue eyes and short black hair.


Anyone with information is asked to call Birkenhead CID on 0151 777 2263.
Coastguards along the banks of the River Mersey are on the lookout for any signs of Robbie and here at Mersey Magazine, we offer our sincere sympathy to Hayley's family and pray for the safe return of Robbie

I have to say, this is starting to look pretty cut and dry.

This is all over my Facebook etc, there's a lot of my friends affected by this.

Robbie Croft used to live in our street, i hope he's found safe..
R.I.P Haley :0( Taken far to young..

Think we should stick to facts. I hope to god the young lad is ok.

this is so sad and I hope the lad finds his way home ok,My thoughts go out to both Families

anyone news on what time this was supposed to have happened? I was out walking at around 5pm on Sunday and took a few pics of the area, but the people in the pics mainly appear to be dog walkers.

I have to say the weather did turn quite dramatically and its highly unlikely anyone would've been swimming at that time. Also the sea was right out way past the lighthouse.

Hope Robbie turns up.

http://merseymagazine.co.uk/2011/08/10-00-pm-update-robbie-crofts-still-missing/

praying for all the family

As is posted in news sites below

“They were not seen by friends or family after around 8pm, but some of their belongings have been found on the beach, near to where Hayley’s body was found. We are understandably very concerned about Robbie, as are his family, and we would appeal for anyone with any information to get in touch.”

Woke up hoping to see he'd been found but quietly doubting it.

Looking at his Facebook page, his mates are still posting for him to turn up, so looks like it's not happened.

Sad times.

you fret if your pet goes missing i couldnt even begin to imagine what the lads family are going through, im sure both families will be supporting each other, very sad for them!

Yes me too Alex.

it is very sad and hope they find him safe
i can't comprehend how their families must be feeling, i have kids the same age
and cannot imagine how they feel..

thoughts are with both families of these 2 young people

Hugely tragic and sad occurrence and my heart goes out to the families of those involved.

However, one must assume it is now only a matter of time...

Kind regards,
Ian

http://merseymagazine.co.uk/2011/08/7-30am-update-still-no-news-of-robbies-whereabouts/

I have to say this but its starting to look like a double tradegdy :'(
I do hope robbie gets home safe & sound
My heart goes out to both families, its heartbreaking </3
kind regards
betty x

have just seen on the facebook page that they are meeting at new brighton tonight to say goodbye to hayley and to pray.. from 9.30pm to pay respects

thanks

have they found robbie yet

They've got an underwater search going on this afternoon.

There were loads of TV cameras about etc earlier.

Facts still remain that they are known to have gone for a swim.

no they havent but Merseyside Police are using the underwater search and marine unit, Coastguard and air operations group in the search for missing Robbie

http://www.wirralglobe.co.uk/news/9225976.Police_using_underwater_unit_in_search_for_missing_Robbie/


http://www.wirralglobe.co.uk/news/9...guests_may_have_clues_to_missing_Robbie/

went down to fort perch rock this evening to pay my respects to the girl that was found. ther was quite a few people down ther to the left of the fort.

Hello Sarahdavo i popped down myself for a bit .It was getting quite busy there .So sad Iv`e gone in for a swim myself years ago coming out of the Chelsea over the road I suppose we were just lucky though .You don`t realize the dangers when your young My sympathy goes out to all concerned June

Just read that article, its just so sad. I truely hope he gets back home safe and well

Social media has a lot to answer for in my opinion.

The guy who found her with a fisherman drinks in the queens. Robbies mum and dad were in there last night before they went down to perch rock. I don't want to say to much out of respect, but some of the crap that's getting said on other sites is out of order.. Robbie and hayley were so happy in love.

Someone also sent one of those 'broadcast' messages over Blackberry Messenger, I don't understand much as I don't have a BB, but the message spread like wildfire saying they'd found his body etc.

Rumours like this fcuk me off massively, having been on the receiving end of something similar years ago.

Decent kids by all accounts, loved by their friends and family but I'm afraid drowning after a few drinks isn't all that rare.

a few people recieved the broadcasts on facebook and then they put it as there status and that fcked me off so i had to put them straight as it is all over the help robbie pages about them..

sad sad people making stuff up like that, familys and friends going through enough

Too many people don't consider who may be reading it.

Sad that they'd only been together 3 weeks - hardly enough time to get to know each other I just hope they did have fun in the very short time they were together. It's a shame that there's always someone who wants to spread rumours. There's only 2 people who will ever know the truth - Hayley & Robbie. My thoughts are with their families.

It's only really a small thing, but something I found sad is that on FB, Robbie has gone from 'In a relationship with Hayley Holmes' to 'In a relationship'.

Suppose that means someone has deactivated Hayley's account.

No, means she was confirmed dead and Facebook set her account to it's special rip status.

Oh I see. Didn't know that existed. Cheers.

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I'm no longer surprised that they are throwing so many resources behind finding Robbie Crofts despite the obvious answer being that he drowned. Not after a conversation with one of the lifeguards down on the prom...

More to this than meets the eye and it's like a jigsaw made up of loads of little jigsaw pieces that don't fit...

I thought of another theroy a couple of days ago too but I will keep an open mind as I dont really want to belive it nor help spread something on the internet that is likey not true.

I was down there on Wednesday night (not as a grief tourist, myself and my girlfreind usually go for a walk there) It was a very somber atmosphere there. There where flowers tied all along the railings and scattered on the rocks. Hand written trbutes and photos left by haleys school mates. Groups of mostly young people standing around trying to make sense of it all. Very sad.

Have some respect for the family!

In my mind there are three possibilities here:

1. The poor lad drowned aswell but didnt get washed up by the tide, in which case he will more than likely be crab meat by now.

2. He has staged a murder for what ever reason.

3. He banged his head in the cuurent, lost his memory and is wondering around clueless.

Hope its the third one, I wonder what conclusions the police are drawing.

It seems the police are as clueless as we all are. The "help us find him" seems vague, does that mean you want us to man boats and check the beaches or comb the streets?

Whatever the outcome, its not going to be good for the lad or his family and they have my condolences, for what they're worth.

I don't think that describing him as possible crab meat will give his family much comfort at this very worrying time.

Well what do you think would be the best way to describe him?

I think if you just said he is missing,everything else is just speculation.

Sleeping with the fishes?

full marks to the respectful way in which Mersey Magazine has been covering this story

Not that I am a qualified detective but if I sat down with a search team I would look at every eventuality, and yes including looking at every option. I say crab meat literally and not in the context of brown bread. The mersey is riddled with craps that will eat anything in a matter of hours.

What I was trying to say that if he didn't get washed up, unfortunatley there will be wont be much left of him to find.

This is a sad thing to happen and Im not trying to make fun of the situation.