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If you replace the emotive word pensioner, it would be understood better possibly.
Police stop car and start to issue a fixed penalty notice.
Car drives off.
Driver doesn't stop for 17 minutes despite being followed with blues & twos
The guy would clearly be seen as having done a runner, this could have been reported completely different if it had been a 17 year old lad.
Three criticisms of the police for this.
1. When they were issuing the FPN they should have had the driver out the car.
2. They should have tried to overtake him.
3. They need more practice at breaking windows and opening cars.
The fact that two independent squads went for the windows would suggest this may be a policy.
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Reading a little more on the Sky News site, that wasnt initially quoted to here.... A two-day trial at Caerphilly Magistrates' Court heard claims from an officer that Whatley was aggressive during the incident last September, the paper reported.
Whatley, of Usk, was fined for various driving offences including not wearing a seatbelt and failing to stop.
The actions of the two officers are being investigated by Independent Police Complaints Commission.
Deputy Chief Constable Carmel Napier said: "When the incident happened Gwent Police had great concerns about what appeared to have occurred."
He added: "Gwent Police expects the highest professional standards of its police officers and police staff at all times and we can assure Mr Whatley and the public that this matter will be thoroughly investigated."
So they have been suspended following a complaint to the Independent Police Complaints Commission which I suspect is common practise. This incident occured in Sept Last year, and had there been a problem with the way it was delt with, that would have come up in court and been previously delt with internally.
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Perhaps the police procedure should be when stopped, policeman takes car keys until he's finished with you. Whatever age you are.
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Perhaps the police procedure should be when stopped, policeman takes car keys until he's finished with you. Whatever age you are. I am sure they are supposed to get you out the car, they need visibility of your actions, could be a knife or gun in the door pocket.
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Look at the full clip!
He was within the speed limit, law says you do not have to stop UNTIL YOU FEEL IT IS SAFE TO DO SO!
Oh look, a member of the public pulls over too and is frogmarched away quickly!
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He had already been stopped though, and knew it was police following him ![[Linked Image]](http://www.acidtrax.net/smileys/rolleyes.gif) So he has actually fled from police after being stopped, not failed to stop as he didnt think it was safe. He also thought they where escorting him, so he knew it was the police.
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![[Linked Image]](http://www.andrewsilke.co.uk/sheriff/images/menutitle.jpg) "The pensioner nearly misses an innocent hedgerow by metres, and then faces justice after his wild chase down a London highway came to an abrupt end - in JAIL, etc etc"
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If he couldn't understand that he was in a police chase then he shouldn't be on the road - he's a danger to the roads and the Police shouldn't even be in a investigation for doing what they are trained to do
Couldn't agree more. Oh and by the way they knew they were on camera so why do it unless there was some justification?
Last edited by Capt_America; 6th Aug 2010 10:12pm. Reason: Thought of something else.
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Oh and by the way they knew they were on camera so why do it unless there was some justification?
People forget Captain sir, your driving around with a cam all the time you will get used to it and forget it`s there, bit like me when i`m treating the yard at work like a rally track or oblitorating cars that are being scrapped! 
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From what i believe happended, he got arsey because he was pulled over and in a huff before the police had actually finished cautioning him he drove off, knocked over one officer with his front wing but still didn't stop, so i think they were well within their rights to chase & apprehend him. He can cry police brutality all he wants, but pensioner or not he was being a bugger. If this was a young lad in a cap in the same circumstances everyone (well most) would be saying he deserved all he got . The old bugger was being a twot and maybe dancing on his bonnet was a bit Miami vice, but come the end, he has committed a crime an assult on a police officer with a vehicle & failed to stop,
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