WikiWirral Share a Little Learn a Lot about your Wirral
Forum Statistics
Posts1,028,052
Topics75,592
Members13,506
Forums65
Posts in last 24hrs15
Most Online14,906
Nov 23rd, 2019
Who's Online Now
39 registered members (alan128, 9 invisible), 1,392 guests, and235 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Social Media : Follow Us


Popular Topics(Views 7days)
New General Forums
George Carlin
by BultacoAstro. 10th Sep 2020 9:00am
Our Earth
by granny. 8th Sep 2020 10:02am
The Moon Landing ?
by BultacoAstro. 29th Aug 2020 4:58pm
Harry McGuire.
by casper. 28th Aug 2020 11:15am
New Wirral History
Stage-Coach Timetables in 1830's
by mikeeb. 19th Sep 2020 4:05pm
Birkenhead Trams 1876
by mikeeb. 17th Sep 2020 3:38pm
WHAT PUB
by derekdwc. 12th Sep 2020 12:51pm
365 Crown Vaults 34 Watson Street
by mikeeb. 1st Sep 2020 5:05pm
94 Clarendon Hotel 109 to 111 Chester Street
by mikeeb. 31st Aug 2020 5:54pm
Forum Tips
Photo Gallery Forums
Boaty McBoatface takes shape
The gathering storm: Mersey waterfront today
Topic Replies
Stage-Coach Timetables in 1830's
by mikeeb. 19th Sep 2020 4:05pm
Dorothea Quarry Aug 2020
by mikeeb. 19th Sep 2020 3:41pm
Birkenhead Trams 1876
by mikeeb. 19th Sep 2020 3:27pm
Trinity Street Birkenhead
by MIKE6570. 19th Sep 2020 12:22pm
Coronavirus
by casper. 19th Sep 2020 12:03pm
Award for Corbyn ???
by casper. 19th Sep 2020 9:34am
Classic Rock The Bands Are Awakening
by BultacoAstro. 19th Sep 2020 8:46am
cat found,Wallasey
by muzzy2. 19th Sep 2020 8:07am
375 The Warwick, Westbourne Road, Birkenhead
by diggingdeeper. 19th Sep 2020 3:19am
September
M T W T F S S
1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30
Recent Posts : What's On ?
Previous Topic
Next Topic
Print Topic
Rate Topic
Page 1 of 2 1 2
What is Good Handling?? #274670
8th Dec 2008 6:16pm
8th Dec 2008 6:16pm
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 5,488
Spital
MGCraig Offline OP
AlfaHolic
MGCraig  Offline OP
AlfaHolic
Forum Veteran
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 5,488
Spital
When people say a car has good Handling, what do they mean by this?

Going from a Micra to an Alfa 146, Im sure Ill experience some difference. But what?

In Racing, a Good Handling car is a fast car, which can often mean stiff cramped controls, with very responsive and unforgiving steering. Being loose at the rear end is often a sig of a good handling car as well. Similar to Rallying.

Surely these specific traits are unwanted on normal road conditions though?

So, what Constitutes, in your view, a good handling car on the road ????


[Linked Image]

------------------------------------------------------------
Google Ads
Re: What is Good Handling?? [Re: MGCraig] #274671
8th Dec 2008 6:30pm
8th Dec 2008 6:30pm
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,888
New Ferry
Davey_Martin Offline
Forum Master
Davey_Martin  Offline
Forum Master
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,888
New Ferry
hmmm to me a good handling car is one that can handle a the power and delivers it well, a car that can go round corners a lot faster than others... ie: i can throw my car around a fairly sharp corner at about 20mph and i get understeer galore, do it in my missus fez and it just flies round the corner with great grip...

Re: What is Good Handling?? [Re: Davey_Martin] #274676
8th Dec 2008 6:43pm
8th Dec 2008 6:43pm
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 12,002
Wirralshire
StuyMac Offline
Wiki Master
StuyMac  Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 12,002
Wirralshire
Its all about how well a car is balanced between front and rear grip, how well it transfers the grip from one end to the other, how well it lets you use the brakes to slow and enter the corner, how well the car balances mid corner, and how well it lets you use the power to get out of a corner.

A good handling FWD car is different to a good handling RWD car, which is different to an AWD car.


What If There Were No Hypothetical Questions?
Re: What is Good Handling?? [Re: StuyMac] #274753
8th Dec 2008 10:38pm
8th Dec 2008 10:38pm
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 410
Bidston
chris bmw M3 Offline
Smartchild
chris bmw M3  Offline
Smartchild
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 410
Bidston
If you want to experience good handling from a standard car(rwd tho),just book a test drive in an M-Powered BMW!!!
And no, I am not biased in any way,what so ever!!! lol

Re: What is Good Handling?? [Re: chris bmw M3] #274835
9th Dec 2008 2:20pm
9th Dec 2008 2:20pm
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 12,369
Birkenhead
BMW Joe Offline
Wiki Master
BMW Joe  Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 12,369
Birkenhead
Grip, tonnes of it, no understeer and no oversteer


Autowirral.co.uk - The Northwest's Biggest forum of Motoring Enthusiasts.
Cruisewirral.com - The Northwest's Biggest forum of Modified Car Enthusiasts.
Re: What is Good Handling?? [Re: BMW Joe] #274881
9th Dec 2008 5:55pm
9th Dec 2008 5:55pm
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,113
wirral
Beemertastic Offline
Forum Addict
Beemertastic  Offline
Forum Addict
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,113
wirral
NOT A FKIN TURBOD MICRA.......................................


Mustang
Re: What is Good Handling?? [Re: BMW Joe] #274886
9th Dec 2008 7:06pm
9th Dec 2008 7:06pm
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 12,002
Wirralshire
StuyMac Offline
Wiki Master
StuyMac  Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 12,002
Wirralshire
Originally Posted by BMW Joe
Grip, tonnes of it, no understeer and no oversteer


Grip is completely different - handling is how the car behaves once you exceed the level of grip.

For example, you could fit ma-hooo-sive tyres to a family saloon - the grip level would increase, but the handling wouldnt improve...


What If There Were No Hypothetical Questions?
Re: What is Good Handling?? [Re: StuyMac] #274896
9th Dec 2008 7:58pm
9th Dec 2008 7:58pm
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,683
Bebington, Wirral
D
DavidB Offline
Wiki Guide
DavidB  Offline
Wiki Guide
D
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,683
Bebington, Wirral
Caterham Seven probably.


"C20 LET bang"
Re: What is Good Handling?? [Re: DavidB] #274906
9th Dec 2008 9:56pm
9th Dec 2008 9:56pm
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 690
Greasby
Dave100e Offline

Veteran
Dave100e  Offline

Veteran
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 690
Greasby
I like a car i can confidently flick around and behave as i wish but still be capable of driving very smooth and consistent. How that is depends on the drive layout though and whether the chassis can handle it.

The pop could never handle the power, it was designed for a 1172 with 30bhp designed in 1956, so i had to drive very differently to how i drive the RS which happily takes the power, its much more forgiving so i can drive it faster and harder.


I HATE cars.
[Linked Image]
Re: What is Good Handling?? [Re: StuyMac] #274909
9th Dec 2008 10:16pm
9th Dec 2008 10:16pm
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 410
Bidston
chris bmw M3 Offline
Smartchild
chris bmw M3  Offline
Smartchild
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 410
Bidston
Originally Posted by StuyMac
Originally Posted by BMW Joe
Grip, tonnes of it, no understeer and no oversteer


Grip is completely different - handling is how the car behaves once you exceed the level of grip.

For example, you could fit ma-hooo-sive tyres to a family saloon - the grip level would increase, but the handling wouldnt improve...



Car handling is a description of the way cars perform transverse to their direction of motion, particularly during cornering and swerving. It also includes their stability when moving in a straight line.Therefore car handling is usually measured(for the most part)while the tyres still have grip!!

Re: What is Good Handling?? [Re: chris bmw M3] #274910
9th Dec 2008 10:18pm
9th Dec 2008 10:18pm
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 5,093
Happy Home
spinking Offline
Forum Veteran
spinking  Offline
Forum Veteran
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 5,093
Happy Home
Who are you the stig raftl Fook me Jones you know to much about to much raftl

Team riding my broadside wide like a backelship ftw raftl


drifting drifting and yet more skidding
Re: What is Good Handling?? [Re: spinking] #274911
9th Dec 2008 10:25pm
9th Dec 2008 10:25pm
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 410
Bidston
chris bmw M3 Offline
Smartchild
chris bmw M3  Offline
Smartchild
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 410
Bidston
You know me mate...its just cars,cars,cars and then some more cars just for good measure...lol

Re: What is Good Handling?? [Re: chris bmw M3] #274914
9th Dec 2008 10:30pm
9th Dec 2008 10:30pm
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 5,488
Spital
MGCraig Offline OP
AlfaHolic
MGCraig  Offline OP
AlfaHolic
Forum Veteran
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 5,488
Spital
That is all based on weight distribution, centre of Gravity and Moments (turning forces) that affect the cars handling and grip levels.

You have to collate all this information along the X, Y and Z axis of the car, which basically are the forces created through Velocity, Braking and Gravity......


[Linked Image]

------------------------------------------------------------
Re: What is Good Handling?? [Re: MGCraig] #274925
9th Dec 2008 10:39pm
9th Dec 2008 10:39pm
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 12,369
Birkenhead
BMW Joe Offline
Wiki Master
BMW Joe  Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 12,369
Birkenhead
The better the grip, the more confident I am to throw it round corners, thus, providing there is no or little understeer or oversteer, that IMO is good handling


Autowirral.co.uk - The Northwest's Biggest forum of Motoring Enthusiasts.
Cruisewirral.com - The Northwest's Biggest forum of Modified Car Enthusiasts.
Re: What is Good Handling?? [Re: MGCraig] #274931
9th Dec 2008 10:48pm
9th Dec 2008 10:48pm
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 410
Bidston
chris bmw M3 Offline
Smartchild
chris bmw M3  Offline
Smartchild
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 410
Bidston
Originally Posted by Mi_Craig
That is all based on weight distribution, centre of Gravity and Moments (turning forces) that affect the cars handling and grip levels.

You have to collate all this information along the X, Y and Z axis of the car, which basically are the forces created through Velocity, Braking and Gravity......


Nicely pasted mate,however, your post just re-enforces my previous statement..lol

Last edited by chris bmw M3; 9th Dec 2008 10:49pm.
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  Mod 

Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
Stage-Coach Timetables in 1830's
by mikeeb. 19th Sep 2020 4:05pm
Dorothea Quarry Aug 2020
by KevinFinity. 18th Sep 2020 9:45pm
cat found,Wallasey
by doggod. 17th Sep 2020 8:55pm
Birkenhead Trams 1876
by mikeeb. 17th Sep 2020 3:38pm
Spring fitting required
by gerrymoore. 17th Sep 2020 9:20am
For Sale & Free
Wanted Bultaco Astro Or Pursang 360 Model 104
by BultacoAstro. 13th Sep 2020 10:39pm
Wooden Single Bed, Headboard, Mattress and Drawer
by rhoobarb2002. 12th Sep 2020 5:07pm
Vauxhall Alloy Wheels - Astra, Corsa, Zafira etc.
by j_demo. 12th Sep 2020 2:44pm
2x2 seater leather sofas recliner
by paul110180. 7th Sep 2020 8:18am
2x2 seater leather sofas recliner
by paul110180. 7th Sep 2020 7:32am
Member Spotlight
zigzagwanderer
zigzagwanderer
Wallasey
Posts: 302
Joined: January 2011
Show All Member Profiles 
Newest Members
Angus, Dawnio, Rosemarie, brook3, Barbarahart
13506 Registered Users
Today's Birthdays
Leannz0r (31)
New Wirral Info
Van carpet fitter
by Gibbo. 17th Sep 2020 9:16am
Tower road. Birkenhead and now Dock road
by keef666. 6th Sep 2020 1:53pm
Enjoy the street theatre!
by Excoriator. 5th Sep 2020 3:50pm
Laminate flooring
by casper. 4th Sep 2020 6:33pm
Self-Employment Income Support Scheme
by mikeeb. 23rd Aug 2020 3:05pm
News : New Topics
Award for Corbyn ???
by granny. 27th Aug 2020 10:41pm
Casper Specials
by granny. 23rd Aug 2020 5:39pm
Worlds oldest man dies aged 116
by mikeeb. 23rd Aug 2020 2:36pm
When Damascus Falls !
by granny. 13th Feb 2020 11:12pm
Coronavirus
by cools. 30th Jan 2020 5:38pm
New Enthusiast Forums
Dorothea Quarry Aug 2020
by KevinFinity. 18th Sep 2020 9:45pm
cat found,Wallasey
by doggod. 17th Sep 2020 8:55pm
Spring fitting required
by gerrymoore. 17th Sep 2020 9:20am
Customer Is Always Right
by BultacoAstro. 3rd Sep 2020 12:19pm
VW Golf TDi Cambelt
by TudorBlue. 1st Sep 2020 10:04am
Popular Topics(Views 24hrs)
Wirral Sunrise Sunset
Sunrise Sat 6:54am
Sunset Sat 7:16pm
Local Time Sat 11:41pm
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.1.1