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grid 10 is near enough outside my sisters house. Good investigation Chris. do you think it would be possible to crawl the length of the tunnel?
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Well, Wheels, I suppose it's possible, but I couldn't recommend it. I myself am particularly interested in the Borough Rd. end. As a child, I used to play on some spoil heaps in what was then waste ground, now part of Rovers' car park, next to the Shaftesbury playing field. I've got a strong feeling that this is where they started the tunnel, rather than disrupt Borough Rd. Only a look at the tunnel under Borough Rd. would confirm this, but I aint about to try.
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pass me a light to strap to my head, i would go
needed to change this for years. so now i have. ha
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I agree with Chris, I used to play i n Tranmere Rovers car park in the 60s & 70s - before they surfaced the car park. There were spoil heaps like embankments around the west and south sides (probably where they scraped the car park flat then local builders tipped rubbish there afterwards), there were streams which joined (and entered) at the southwest corner and ran into a concrete pipe somewhere along the south side (can't remember if west or east end, though I don't remember a stream running the length of the south side). I also remember vaguely that something changed here to do with the pipe - long before they re-did the car park. I do remember there was some sort of concrete box towards the east end of the south side. In the hawthorne bushes on these embankments were always some "magazines" and a few cans.  New outfall looks like it joins in with the surface water drains they put in for new-ferry bypass. I would love to see what this valve looks like that can change the flow over - is it a big vane? We knew about the happy valley and were always told there was an underground stream along the length of Borough road, they must have done something with the stream when they built Borough Road. Anyway - excellent research and a good project - I was going to get back earlier but hoped to have something a bit more concrete than my vague memories of my cyclodrome.
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Excellent research Chris, well done 
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I agree with Chris, I used to play i n Tranmere Rovers car park in the 60s & 70s - before they surfaced the car park. There were spoil heaps like embankments around the west and south sides (probably where they scraped the car park flat then local builders tipped rubbish there afterwards), there were streams which joined (and entered) at the southwest corner and ran into a concrete pipe somewhere along the south side (can't remember if west or east end, though I don't remember a stream running the length of the south side). I also remember vaguely that something changed here to do with the pipe - long before they re-did the car park. I do remember there was some sort of concrete box towards the east end of the south side. In the hawthorne bushes on these embankments were always some "magazines" and a few cans. New outfall looks like it joins in with the surface water drains they put in for new-ferry bypass. I would love to see what this valve looks like that can change the flow over - is it a big vane? We knew about the happy valley and were always told there was an underground stream along the length of Borough road, they must have done something with the stream when they built Borough Road. Anyway - excellent research and a good project - I was going to get back earlier but hoped to have something a bit more concrete than my vague memories of my cyclodrome. Those spoil heaps were there in the 1940's, that's when I used to play on them. I think they may have been the spoil from the overflow tunnel.
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In the hawthorne bushes on these embankments were always some "magazines" and a few cans. That's something that you don't see anymore "specialist mags" left lying about! I'm guessing that if this is a diversion of the stream that was under Borough road that there is a dry culvert underneath the road past the library - another prject perhaps?
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I'm guessing that if this is a diversion of the stream that was under Borough road that there is a dry culvert underneath the road past the library - another project perhaps?
I'm not sure whether it's a complete diversion or just for when the flow is great. Unfortunately there are no details on the plans of the arrangement under Borough Rd. For instance, if the tunnel was started from the Rovers' car park (which I suspect) there will be evidence of a blocked up passage. Don't suppose we'll ever know.
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Great work Chris, we know you have been chasing this one for a while now and i'm sure a few thought your were going mad too lol. Well documented and a good bit of History Preserved 
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I remember the "humps" around Rovers Carpark. I used to play footbal on there(not the humps) When I was at Temple Rd Secondary(early 60's) that is where we used to go for our fights.
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Glad you remember the humps. (Pinzgauer went to Temple Road).
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Wow - just read the thread - marvellous! Knew it was a river and called happy valley - always wondered how they managed to redirect it under the road - must tell my mum - she lived on Holt Rd and has mentioned it a few times as well as donkey town etc. She lived at no.3 - sadly its gone now but I managed to get a photo of it in 2000 before they got rid.
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I wonder if the Overflow was responsible for the Borough Road flash flood in June 2008?
Here is a Youtube (with nice music - Ryhthm Acupuncture)
[youtube]sjMbac1szBc[/youtube]
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Nice video, notice the lifted manhole cover at 4'03". I think that without the presence of the overflow tunnel, it would have been a lot worse. The tunnel starts about 1/2 mile further on from the end of the video, at the Rovers' ground. The diameter of the tunnel there is 4ft. which is probably a lot greater than the drain down Borough Rd. so it would have taken most or all of the water from the South of there. Remember, Borough Rd. is in a valley; a lot of the water would have come down the streets on the East of Borough Rd. from Tranmere ridge & a lot more from Singleton Ave. & the roads towards Oxton. Thanks for posting that.
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