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Dominic Cummings has absolutely nothing to do with the number of coronavirus cases. If he attends a meeting , why shouldn't he, if he was allowed and if he had an interest in such a very serious situation. ?

It doesn't matter, he's not a medical, health, or scientific advisor , and to say Boris didn't have any breathing problem or difficulty in speaking when he left hospital is another example of the Brits trying to play Sherlock Holmes.
You yourself DD, said in one of your posts that this virus attacks many of the internal organs too. So maybe you'd like to comment on the state of Boris's kidneys ?

The number of deaths is awful, and concentrated areas are more prone. I'm not interested in what the EU thinks, or says, we know how Germany came out of it so well. We know how Italy and Spain didn't !

There was one gentleman who actually said that although many deaths recorded have been categorised as Coronavirus, it is not necessarily Covid 19, as many diseases come under the Coronavirus. France haven't given their care home deaths, neither has Canada, and I don't know how many more countries . I'd like to know how many fatalities have just had Coronavirus stamped on their death certificate, because if the numbers are high, they clearly won't have enough Pathologists to carry out autopsies needed. So that's to my mind is another question to be answered.

Not interested in Cummings. Who would those who oppose Cummings prefer to have his job instead ? All I see is the British public thinking they know who is best to fill these positions. Nobody would actually please all of the people all of the time, and it really has nothing to do with us.
Let's not forget all the advisors of Blair,(Iraq) Brown (Gold) , Corbyn,(election) to name a few incidents, those who ended up in jail, corrupt property dealers, cocaine addicts and rent boys, Alistair Campbell who went on holiday with Kinnock and was a very close friend of Maxwell. The list is endless on both sides , but attending a meeting given by health officials and scientists is no crime.

People would be better engaged in having a look to see what other things are going under the radar during this pandemic , if they are so worried. An old saying springs to mind... A good day to bury bad news !
They should also be more concerned about the possible world famine following this pandemic ... rather than Cummings attending a meeting . Trivial nonsense

Well, I would also suggest keeping our eyes on the Middle East because that is building up (I'll give it 18months before take off) , as we argue about who has the worse toothache.

Now I've said my piece , and not listening to you two any longer.

... and another thing.

USA 54,000 deaths

EU well exceeds that total

USA population 328.2 million
EU population 446 million.

EU statistics well exceed double US statistics.

Don't understand how Poland and Romania have come out with so few fatalities . Maybe because Romania only have 19 million and the Polish are all in the UK.

I think you are missing the point, Cummings is running the country not just "attending meetings". We have gone back to the days of spin-doctors ruling the roost because the spineless elected political leaders haven't got the nous to do their jobs.

CV has hardly started in the USA, both New York (0.11%) and New Jersey (0.07%) have a worse death rate than Belgium (0.06%) which is the worst EU country, it has yet to spread as significantly in many other States but it probably will in some.

Romania had a really harsh lockdown which probably helped them, one factor I can guess at especially with Poland is temperature, CV doesn't appear to have hit colder (or hotter) climbs as much, maybe there is a certain band of temperatures it thrives in? This would be in line with many other viruses.

We still don't know why CV spreads so readily, most people in the country are observing lockdown to a reasonable degree, the few idiots that aren't don't really account for the ease it is spreading. Supermarket staff don't seem to have the prevalence you would expect which sort of cancels out the possibility that it is spreading while people are shopping.

We are clearly missing something very basic, the evidence to me is that it is more of an airborne problem than so far admitted/realised (deduced purely on the basis that I've run out of other options), we have had a fair amount of wind days over recent weeks. With a rainy spell coming that may slow down the spread if it is an airborne problem.

The intention of giving the above numbers was in fact to point out that the United States of America has fewer cases than the United States of Europe, considering the difference in populations but I certainly don't think that the EU or UK has finished with it yet.

Don't be silly, Cummings is not running the country.

I feel this is very apt :

Do you not know?
Have you not heard?
Has it not been told you from the beginning?
Have you not understood since the earth was founded?

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He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth,
and its people are like grasshoppers.
He stretches out the heavens like a canopy,
and spreads them out like a tent to live in.

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He brings princes to naught
and reduces the rulers of this world to nothing.

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No sooner are they planted,
no sooner are they sown,
no sooner do they take root in the ground,
than he blows on them and they wither,
and a whirlwind sweeps them away like chaff.

Numerous Tory politicians have said he is.

Who ?

Ken Clark has stated it on more than one occasion, Huw Merriman, Sir Roger Gale and a number of others that chose to be anonymous, everybody knows what happens when you get on the wrong side of Cummings because he has the power to get rid.

365 tory MP's, and you name 3, one of whom voted against same sex marriage, another who would oppose almost anything unless it was about himself, and all three opposed Brexit !

More please, because when I grew up, 'numerous' meant 'many' , not two or three.

Well I for one am glad to see Boris back at the helm...not expecting miracles and know many glaring mistakes have been made but whether you like it or not this is the government we have and we all looking to them to get us through this..

Morning Cools..


Last week, it was reported two cats in US had coronavirus, but nothing more was heard so could have been nonsense.

Yesterday it's reported by Reuters, that the new Covid 19 has been found on two Dutch mink farms. (Cruel b.tds. Who the heck wears mink these days ?)

If this is the case , I suggest we could have a problem on our hands of an even greater magnitude.

What's that got to do with it? I'd vote against it given the chance - I might start a topic.

Really granny do you expect people to put themselves forward knowing this mans reputation, David Cameron described him as a career psychopath and accused him of dripping poison into the ears of others, 365 Tory MP's many new, being careful not to piss on their boots, lets face it how many detractors have already been sacked? and on who's say so, the guy is utterly ruthless, its akin to the Generals in the bunker telling Hitler he's loony ( although they thought it ) that is why there was concern about him being present at the latest meeting, too much influence.

I am reminded of how the likes of Vince Cable, Iain Duncan Smith, and even Alastair Campbell suddenly found themselves with the capacity to speak up about the sort of injustices - the likes of which they themselves had enabled - once relieved of Office.

The figures are still going up each day, the death toll still rises and Boris and the gang thinks we are at a turning point!
When there's no new cases and nobody dies then we have reach that point Boris

Another example of Chinese kits being faulty.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-52451455