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Trump - I'm open minded on at the moment, waiting to see what he does, at the moment a lot of what he is doing is playing games with the media who desperately need to be brought under control. From what I have seen so far, he cannot be worse than Bush but isn't going to be better than Obama.
Theresa May - I'm also waiting to see where she heads off too although I fear to retain "respect" in her own party the inevitable will happen. Her heart may be in the right place but can she retain the power.
Farage - Difficult to criticise him on his prime beliefs but to get any further he would need to get the backing of the Tories on other matters which wouldn't be good, so I agree with Fish.
George Galloway - is desperately needed by all the UK parties to guide us on foreign policy. Although a Galloway/Trump debate probably wouldn't be pretty, Galloway openly agrees with much of Trumps policies and is giving him the time of day. His basic statement so far is that Trump is better than Clinton but like me rues the fact that Bernie Saunders was squeezed out.
There's a real danger that the left will drag Britain back to the 1970s, with secure well-paid jobs, ample housing, properly-funded NHS and social care, free tuition, student grants, final salary pensions, affordable rail fares and fabulous films and music. David Osland 2025 We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn https://ddue.uk
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George Galloway is another politician I cant make up my mind over DD. Agree with many things he says but then I see one or two things on youtube where he is almost inciting violence implying muslims would kill or be killed in London to defend their sharia laws.
Galloway/Trump debate would fall at first hurdle Jewish/Palestinian problem but would certainly be worth watching the first few salvos.
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Galloway just says as it is, take the following two examples ... Around a third of young British Muslims favour killing in the name of Islam, according to a survey revealed by the WikiLeaks' publication of U.S. diplomatic cables He did, indeed, have the right to exact the death penalty on his neighbour’s children, the court ruled. It would be merciful if he would negotiate financial compensation in lieu of their death, but he was not obliged to do so
There's a real danger that the left will drag Britain back to the 1970s, with secure well-paid jobs, ample housing, properly-funded NHS and social care, free tuition, student grants, final salary pensions, affordable rail fares and fabulous films and music. David Osland 2025 We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn https://ddue.uk
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I think that things are beginning to move into the 'dangerous' zone.
His daughter Ivanka, swooning over Treudau, ..maybe, maybe not, but as she has no official capacity and yet she is participating in official events. I think she's being left wide open to some sort of underhanded moves from the not so nice people who are going to be surrounding her.
Netanyahu is over the moon with his new, old buddy. They obviously have a long standing relationship through Trumps son- in -law for one , how is it right that 'buddy's' can make plans for peace in a region and involving so many, surely that is another unscrupulous way of dealing with things. Friends deals, and if others outside don't agree with Trump's ideas , we can imagine what his reaction is likely to be.
Which ever way, the now possible peace deal which is being discussed, without involving a two state solution has to be a bit suspect and the Palestinians are not going to take much more crap.
Another bloody war, with American backing ???
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I was reading the argument for not having a two-state solution but basically there is much more Israel-Arab co-operation/integration than our media lead you to believe.
Since 1949 the number of Muslims in Israel has grown far more rapidly than the number of Jews, there are 13 times more Muslims now compared with the growth in Jews being about 6 times. The proportion of Muslims rising from 10% to over 15%.
The two-state problems has forced Israeli companies that employed Palestinians in the occupied areas to move their companies into Israel.
There's a real danger that the left will drag Britain back to the 1970s, with secure well-paid jobs, ample housing, properly-funded NHS and social care, free tuition, student grants, final salary pensions, affordable rail fares and fabulous films and music. David Osland 2025 We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn https://ddue.uk
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Just listening to his speech now from Florida. He's certainly got the patter and can certainly hold an audience. 
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect.
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Just listening to his speech now from Florida. He's certainly got the patter and can certainly hold an audience. Like all good con men granny, tell the people what they want to hear, talk is cheap.
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Well General Motors seem to have made a massive decision to follow his philosophy and keep their manufacturing inside the USA. Selling Vauxhall/Opel off is a big change of policy.
There's a real danger that the left will drag Britain back to the 1970s, with secure well-paid jobs, ample housing, properly-funded NHS and social care, free tuition, student grants, final salary pensions, affordable rail fares and fabulous films and music. David Osland 2025 We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn https://ddue.uk
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Oops, massive massive hole in Vauxhall pension scheme . Will it be dealt with outside the deal , or will it just prevent a deal I wonder.
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The blackhole was created around 2010 when the rules changed, there has been a scheme to make this up by increasing the employer contribution by twice RPI every year, it was estimated that the blackhole would be eliminated by 2023 using this scheme.
Provided the buyer continues with that scheme there shouldn't be much of a problem.
There's a real danger that the left will drag Britain back to the 1970s, with secure well-paid jobs, ample housing, properly-funded NHS and social care, free tuition, student grants, final salary pensions, affordable rail fares and fabulous films and music. David Osland 2025 We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn https://ddue.uk
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what a guy,we should bring our troops home and get them to defend are borders and remove the hundreds of thousands of people who should not be here,but the powers that be won't want that there is a lot of money to be made out of war,donald trump got in because the illuminati wanted him in and are still telling him what to do and say.makes the ordinary bloke look like he had a say
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what a guy,we should bring our troops home and get them to defend are borders and remove the hundreds of thousands of people who should not be here,but the powers that be won't want that there is a lot of money to be made out of war,donald trump got in because the illuminati wanted him in and are still telling him what to do and say.makes the ordinary bloke look like he had a say illuminati wanted him in and telling him what to do and say?Why is that?
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i think they have realised people are not going to take anymore crap,so they let him in and they will let him do some things but not everything,anyway thats what i think,but i do like trump
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