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Not sure spellbinder if thats a reference to his obscurity .....but potentialyy next leader of the labour party.

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....and if there was a re-referendum, and the vote went the other way, would we have a re-re-referendum?

Time to move on me thinks....


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I think a lot of people feel they have been misled by the promises/ lies made about leaving, and then the about turn after the referendum, in all fairness the truth needs to be told before signing off, after all if you are sold shoddy goods in a shop you can get your money back, if you are sold a lemon by the government you have to suck it up.

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Casper. we are leaving the EU so get use to it. If on the other hand you are keen on been part of a federal state which is the ultimate aim of the EU. Then cross over the channel.


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If I remember correctly, far from all the members or even the leaders, of the main parties were on the same side of Brexit. So no-one was "sold a lemon" by anyone. The people who VOTED in the referendum presumably did so according to their own personal decision and because they believed it was a valid and binding vote. How anyone made up their mind is none of anyone else's business. People were not herded into the polling stations at gunpoint as far as I know, and the referendum decision was not and has not been "imposed" on the country by the Government (if anything, the reverse is true).

By their very nature, the losers of any vote are always going to be more or less unhappy with the result - and the recent polarizations of opposing views may be exacerbating this - but the idea of anyone trying to undo (or re-do) a duly held vote because someone may have made a campaign statement that turned out not to be what they thought it was, is just a recipe for anarchy.

But then again, there have always been Anarchists (and I suppose there always will be), and they thrive and feed on situations like this.

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Casper. we are leaving the EU so get use to it. If on the other hand you are keen on been part of a federal state which is the ultimate aim of the EU. Then cross over the channel.


Jimbob, I have done nothing other than voice my opinion, I believe even in the EU you have a right to do that, this is I believe a debate where people can put points for and against, no need for insults, have a nice day mate.

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one in eight Leave voters might be having second thoughts
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...r-out-of-ten-remain-europe-a7127731.html

After Brexit Vote, Britain Asks Google: 'What Is The EU?'
http://www.npr.org/sections/alltech...r-what-is-the-eu-spike-after-brexit-vote

And I'd imagine that many people who were suckered in by Farage's lie of £350 million a week are now regretting their decision.

Although I voted Remain I don't think the outcome is too bad. We have a new PM, Farage has gone, Osborne has gone, Boris is relegated and its split Labour worse than they could have imagined.

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Well I keep being told that the lies didn't matter and people made up their own minds!! try this one,
http://www.independant.co.uk/news/u...y-theresa-may-brexit-talks-eu-referendum,
sorry link doesnt work

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