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Wonder whether #piggate was a deliberate attempt to hide the 'real story' of the day. Being this...

Abolishment of free school meals and tax credits to the hardworking families that the Baconconservatives claim to support. The supplements that 'hard working' families need to exist.

I suggest that Cameron's vision of Hardworking families' does nor extend to blue collared workers with multi zero contracts, juggling child care costs.

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....Or (off topic) the Tories just want shut of him as P.M- massive clue- #piggate originating from The Fail? Even The S*n followed suit today.

Maybe looking for a new, stronger leader to oppose Jeremy Corbyn #self-cervatives.

#Piggate ain't going away....

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It really is quite simple. If you can't afford to have children and raise them until they are self sufficient then you should not be having them.

You're just making the problem worse i.e. have a kid, expect the state to look after them and then guess what, your kids have kids and expect the same.

Maybe introduce a 'license' to have kids? Think about it, the world would be a much better place and people who pop kids out for the hell of it would all of a sudden think twice about it - especially if it's going to impact on their (limited) cashflow.

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Originally Posted by Slinky
It really is quite simple. If you can't afford to have children and raise them until they are self sufficient then you should not be having them.

You're just making the problem worse i.e. have a kid, expect the state to look after them and then guess what, your kids have kids and expect the same.

Maybe introduce a 'license' to have kids? Think about it, the world would be a much better place and people who pop kids out for the hell of it would all of a sudden think twice about it - especially if it's going to impact on their (limited) cashflow.

That was what I meant really. Well said Slinky. Socialists of course have no issue whatsoever with people who expect others to pay for things that they believe they are "entitled" to.

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Most of the majority of school kids hate the school meals anyway.
The packed lunch is the best solution,as long as its healthy.

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We need to be promoting people to have children, many countries are averaging less than one child per person which means eventually the native population will either disappear or become a minority.

South Korea has a major problem with this, at one time the birth rate was far too large, the government took a number of measures to decrease the birth rate, unfortunately it has gone far too far, unless the birthrate picks up they will be extinct by 2750.

The UK still has too low a birthrate at 1.91 per woman, it needs to be 2 or above to sustain the population.


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ive not once said my kids are entitled to free school meals as a given but my point is look after your own country before looking after others.

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We need to be selective over who we allow to breed.

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Originally Posted by Slinky
We need to be selective over who we allow to breed.
Positive and negative eugenics, the last person to try this was that funny little chap with the strange moustache, Adolf someone or other, and that didn't turn out too well.

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Originally Posted by Slinky
We need to be selective over who we allow to breed.


I'm lost for words over that suggestion!!!

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Originally Posted by Slinky
We need to be selective over who we allow to breed.


Translated, I think this means 'let's get everyone wound up'
but I assume Slinky won't be on the breeding programme, for obvious reasons !!! raftl


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Originally Posted by ludwigvan
Positive and negative eugenics, the last person to try this was that funny little chap with the strange moustache, Adolf someone or other, and that didn't turn out too well.


The USA was guilty of this too, well into the 1970s.

http://www.uvm.edu/~lkaelber/eugenics/

Time magazine reports this was still happening as late as 2010 in some prisons:

http://ideas.time.com/2013/07/10/eugenics-are-alive-and-well-in-the-united-states/

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