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snowhite #983871 16th Sep 2015 9:16pm
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Originally Posted by snowhite
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Pandora's box has been opened and no matter what is said on here everybody can only wait and see what happens. Personally I don't reckon it's going to be good, looking into the future but without a crystal ball. Time will tell.

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Well it is not looking good at all Bandy infact it is already out of hand.we all saw this crisis comming.

All except the powers that be.

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Originally Posted by palemoon
Originally Posted by snowhite
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Pandora's box has been opened and no matter what is said on here everybody can only wait and see what happens. Personally I don't reckon it's going to be good, looking into the future but without a crystal ball. Time will tell.

oldman
Well it is not looking good at all Bandy infact it is already out of hand.we all saw this crisis comming.

All except the powers that be.
thumbsup exactly Palemoon

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The U.K and the U.S.A 'powers that be' crea
ted this problem.

Call me Dave- at an Arms Sale Conference, this evening, apparently

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Here is an example of what is going on,
Its a bit long this video but its showing what really is going on.
At one bit of the video they mention that they are going to take over half of America .Main target is .....The Whitehouse and hang there flag up.After that its Europe.Scary i think.

[youtube]v=AUjHb4C7b94[/youtube] WARNING SOME SCENES YOU MIGHT FIND DISTURBING

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Propaganda. I say.

Not watched your link.

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Originally Posted by RUDEBOX
Propaganda. I say.

Not watched your link.


So: shut your eyes to anything which may conflict with your opinion?


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Nope, Gnome.

On my phone and cannot access videos. Will watch when I return home- that will be at some point tomorrow afternoon laugh

Can just guesss these things....

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Originally Posted by chriskay
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Propaganda. I say.

Not watched your link.


So: shut your eyes to anything which may conflict with your opinion?


Lol

Anyway those that don't worry about all this probably agree with murders protesting about prison conditions and causing the tax payer (the workers ) to pay for the damage they have done during the protest.

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Speaking of propaganda. Yesterday I was discussing this subject with Dutch pal of mine, who has relatives living in Germany. He has been told not believe all that welcoming footage shown in the media. Lots of it was staged. Apparently there is a massive air of discontent amongst the general public and trouble is brewing.

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The more footage I see the more doubtful I become, most of the stills focus on woman and children, yet when you watch the moving footage it is entirely dominated by groups of young men, perhaps the border policy should be to allow families in first, lets sort the wheat from the chafe, not a great fan of Cameron but I believe his policy of taking from the camps allows refugees to be screened as genuine, this mass exodus has been seen as free entrance to Europe and many being interviewed are saying they come from Pakistan, Afghanistan and Turkey, and we are going to be the losers swamped by those looking for a better life at the expense of others.

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Lots of these young men are seen using Smartphones, probably to keep their Isis gangs up to date. How do they manage to keep these charged up, and how do they all seem to have enough money to pay the traffickers the large sums of money.
Probably being paid to come to Europe to increase the Muslim population and get ISIS into Europe. All the men seem very fit and healthy, not to be expected really after the long trek through various countries and sea crossings.
How on earth are they all supposed to find jobs and somewhere to live?

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Hi Muzzy, with a name like yours I thought you'd be more sympathetic. Ha Ha!

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The scenes they are showing are terrible, it's the poor kids I feel sorry for . They're being used as tools to try and gain entry. Being pulled from pillar to post and they have no say in it. You can't blame the countries for doing this self preservation and and panic setting in.. There has got to be somewhere to put these people in and help given to set up a camp and at least they are safe and can have a rest. If you are genuine and need just a place for sanctuary you will go. Surely as a good parent you don't want all this mayhem for your kids...

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The chaos started ages ago. This fraction of an article on 26th August is from an Italian newspaper.
Greece and Italy had obviously had enough and unleashed all the migrants to descend on the rest of Europe. These must have been holed up somewhere for a long time. The numbers on such a massive scale could surely not equate to the amount of boats coming across from Asia and Africa in such a short period..
Many of them seem to have travelled to the borders by taxi, boats, buses, trains. No shortage of cash !

I don't believe the Syrians are the cause of these outbreaks of violence, more like Iraqis ,Iranians, Afghans and Pakistanis. There's a real mixed bag.


http://www.thelocal.it/20150826/italy-hits-back-at-merkel-in-migrants-row
26th August
German Chancellor Angela Merkel, at talks with French President Francois Hollande, on Monday publicly rebuked Italy and Greece over the pace of progress in establishing registration centres for newly-arrived migrants, warning it would be intolerable if the centres, approved at an EU summit in June, were not operational by the end of the year.

Merkel and Hollande's remarks have embarrassed a government which has struggled to cope with the arrival of some 280,000 migrants on its territory since the start of last year, most of them rescued from the Mediterranean by Italy's coastguard or navy.

"Asking Greece and Italy to do their duty on immigration is like asking a country hit by floods to step up the production of umbrellas," Gentiloni said.



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