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Yeah staying the same colour matey.
Not buying the roof for weight saving but i am sure it will save some weight.
The cage will add weight but if i want my Licence i need it plus its a good thing to have.
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Yay! i was hoping youd stay that colour. Is it a full spray or just the kit?
As im sure you know, any weight saving will be worth it as itll lower the Centre of Gravity.
Yeah, its probably good to have a cage. Im sure its worth gaining weight for stiffness. Are you going for a full on fancy one? Does it need to be weld in for BDC aswell?
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Its staying grey for now. Black once i buy carbon doors but thats along way off i think i will have dinted it before then  Yeah every pound counts as for weight saving Cage is from fabricage and will be a bdc spec cage 6 pointer
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Mine is a Fabricage and they aint that light  Weld in / Bolt in makes no difference, the MSA / FIA / BDC / EDC approvial comes from diameter / shape of the pipes, not how if its bolted / welded in - both the Silvia and Civic have bolt in cages, and both are FIA approved 
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Fair enough. Cheers for clearing that up. Dont know too much about cages.
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well look at it this way. Our Rally Fiesta uses a bolt in cage from a 3 door 4x4 off road rally car (big V8 thing) that has also been welded in for extra security. To remove, we cut out the feet and reweld... First car was a 5 door, and to be perfectly honest I wouldnt trus my life with it on say, a manx rally stage? But now the new car is a 3 door, I feel a lot safer in terms of overall protection. It passed all the checks and everything, been declared safe etc.. I just wish wed have bought a cage specifically for a Fiesta... They all do the same job end of the day (unless its a showcage hahahahahahahaha) Id rather have a heavy one than none at all 
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Once i get a cage i'll go get the car weighed again as i am planing on getting it weighed soon as it is now.
Hoping to have the car back by weds all one colour YAY
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Saw the car outside SprayForce yesterday mate  I had the 180 weighed with the cage - it made 1200kgs 
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Hoping mine makes less than that. What had been removed stu. I have got and removed sound deadening rear seats (god they are heavy  ) carpets rear boot replaced with carbon and lexan window carbon bonnet diff cooler and pump speakers and radio pop up lights and motors as the ps are alot lighter front and rear bumper suports abs removed air con too did you removed any of this???
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Interior was in, but it had no air con or ABS. It did have the SR which is also a lighter engine. I guess you could be down to 1100 as the boot especially weighs a ton 
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Interior was in, but it had no air con or ABS. It did have the SR which is also a lighter engine. I guess you could be down to 1100 as the boot especially weighs a ton Edited the other post. Yeah Chris said about the sr being alloy and lighter than a steel ca.
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Well, Time will tell - Muttley on the SXOC who races one, has his down to 1000 IIRC Though there is only a seat and cage on the inside of his and its very very lightweight 
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Yeah read his thread on sxoc i like my dash though 
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little update on the car
RUST RUST RUST AND RUST RRRRR
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I asked the lad who is spraying my car to see how bad the rust is and howmuch it would cost as i know the inner arches and a small hole behind the driver seat turns out its much much more inner sills both sides the full lenght chassie rails and bits around the floor. I have done 2245 miles since i bought the car in may and there is now way i bought this car with a legal mot which has pissed me right off. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.images.wikiwirral.co.uk/uploads/902/2009/09august/cruisewirral300809(122).jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://www.images.wikiwirral.co.uk/uploads/902/2009/09august/cruisewirral300809(123).jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://www.images.wikiwirral.co.uk/uploads/902/2009/09august/cruisewirral300809(124).jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://www.images.wikiwirral.co.uk/uploads/902/2009/09august/cruisewirral300809(125).jpg) car will still be sprayed (wings bumper skirts and rear bumper) and i will still do the driftday at stoke on the 5th but the question is do i re-shell as its over £600 worth of welding (i have been quoted cheaper) but will this be the end as its pritty extensive and i havnt taken it for a mot yet so will prob find more. GUTTED but its a s13 so shouldnt be to suprised.
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