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Right now, I'm more concerned about the Middle East blowing up in our faces. I suggest many wouldn't give a hanky about fracking, if that should happen and it won't mean much at the end of twenty years anyway, just like a temporary filling.

Much more to worry about at the moment and spirituality is sometimes the only thing left that some people have to hold onto. So less of that angle too.

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Originally Posted by landl
Lol Mrhanky, you would think you owned the forum. Silly sod. Thanks for the laughs, your level of cognitive dissonance and lacking ability to structurally debate an argument with a semblance of intellectual depth, is on show for all to see. Good luck with that.


Now this door you mentioned, where is it exactly?

Don't worry, this is my last post.. So break a leg, in your response,ok. People are waiting with bated breath. Make it good, no repeats of tree huggers, religious fanatics etc ect .. impress me, i'll watch for a few moments. No pressure.
Love ya tenacity. duh.

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We've had this "fracking is bad because the US had problems" argument before on another thread. There are a number of key points which keep getting ignored:

1) The US incidents should not be used as a comparison. Some are old, some are blatant lies (Gasland documentary), and some are because of less scrupulous regulations, not to mention thousands of miles away on another continent.

2) Fracking has been going on in this country since 1947. I believe the first site was just north of Southport. There has been a fracking site in operation since 1993 in Lancashire, set up by British Gas. It quietly and safely pumps out sandstone share gas, and is the best comparison. The "footprint" of the site is tiny and you'd be very hard pressed to find it unless you knew its exact location.

3) For fairness lets raise the issue of the "earthquake" near Blackpool. OK, that may or may not have been a result of fracking, there's no solid evidence either way. There are often earthquakes in this area, some minor, some large (The Manchester one of 2002 is very well known) But there have been some very serious earthquakes and land slips from coal and other mineral mining in recent years.

Its like the frack test site at Barton Moss. The company managing that has an exact same operation running safely and smoothly to the west of Warrington for years, but the campaigners haven't attacked it.

Now just because I've posted this doesn't mean I'm a frack fan. No, I'm a FACT fan and believe that both sides of the argument should be put forwards in an unbiased manner. Frack-off have used lies and false information to put the seed of doubt in people's minds, as my links on the other fracking thread show.

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Originally Posted by granny
landl, this has been discussed before. See link. Always a fall out on topics like this, but we don't care. Just stay with what your inner self believes. In the meantime see what was said on the previous topic.

https://www.wikiwirral.co.uk/forums...88/Re_Fracking_on_Wirral.html#Post849888

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You didn't read page 2 did you Gibbo ?

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Sorry granny, I didn't see it on page 2 in the middle of the name calling!

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Feel a bit sorry for landl, he/she didn't need to be lambasted for posting a point of view, nor the others including myself that signed, we are all entitled to our points of view and it irks to be called a leftie or a tree hugger because we responded and thought we were doing right, but only time will tell, I wont probably see it but my grandkids might, however I would have been more upset had somebody called me a Tory, now there is something to get upset about, behold a pale rider and its name shall be Tory and the land shall descend into darkness and despair..... smile

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I have absolutely no issue with Fracking on the Wirral if it is regulated/controlled properly.

Where does all the oil/gas that we currently use come from and how is that extracted. Processes similar to fracking are typically used to get oil from ground - oil just does not come out of ground if you drill a hole. And it is fine for other countries to extract oil/gas then we import it?

So NIMBY's rise again - ok to extract resources from elsewhere and mess their environments whilst we just use the imported fuels.



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