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Originally Posted by BandyCoot
If god didn't want us to eat animals why did he make them taste like meat?
Id take a look at "SOYLENT GREEN " movie my friend.....a future dystopia which is possible....

We'd be tasty to some animals, its all gonna run out one day
you could probably put human dna flesh into a burger and dumb "open and shovel it in, switch off brain" consumers would eat it !
the horse "scandal" was zero surprise to me
my point is, you've never going to stop people eating flesh but we owe it to the animals who ,cause they don't control their own destiny, die daily that theyre treated with respect good handling and a quick easy painless death
if you look at the works of TEMPLE GRANDIN she sorted this out for us
the human race is the ultimate hypocrite.....horrified by be headings in war but if its for food, halal is ok ( as long as we don't see it)
All the crap pumped into animals and the food chain its a wonder we last to even age 75 now days
As shaun monson says in his earthlings speech "they are part of us, a type of ALL life that is multi tudal diverse and bright, as we show them no humanity , we show our lack of humanity , our division by form that we live by, even amongst ourselves as humans, we destroy ourselves as we destroy them but because were distracted and augmented by our own consumption reality we don't notice or care"
We often look down on them thinking were higher but were not, just as savage just as destructive as the animals we don't care about.

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Sven, what are male dairy cows ?


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Granny, male dairy cows is a bit of a misnomer, but is generally used to refer to male calves born to dairy cows. They are not suitable to be grown on for beef, as dairy breeds have been developed over the years to produce lots of milk rather than lots of meat, so inevitably they are taken from the cow at a very young age so that the cow can be milked instead of suckling the calf, and used for veal. Fortunately in the UK there are now very strict regulations as to how veal calves are treated, but again in the US and parts of Europe they can suffer horribly. Google veal crates if you bear some more nasty images.

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Very true cobby
CH four recently showed the shooting of the young cause no milk -+ no money
An expendable form of life to humans
There's lots of cruelty in this " animal lover " world
Romanian dogs beaten shot like vermin
Bile collection by the dumb Chinese from caged bears
Beating of and crating of pigs here and Walmart USA
Rhino horn killing, when shot they emit a high pitch squeal
..ironic
Shooting by scummy hunters of Canada polar bears for fun or elephants
Hunting is man's blood lust shame
The cat dog slaughter houses of southern China
List goes on and on.....
Man== the most evil destructive mammal on earth---fact

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Originally Posted by Cobby
Granny, male dairy cows is a bit of a misnomer, but is generally used to refer to male calves born to dairy cows. They are not suitable to be grown on for beef, as dairy breeds have been developed over the years to produce lots of milk rather than lots of meat, so inevitably they are taken from the cow at a very young age so that the cow can be milked instead of suckling the calf, and used for veal. Fortunately in the UK there are now very strict regulations as to how veal calves are treated, but again in the US and parts of Europe they can suffer horribly. Google veal crates if you bear some more nasty images.


Thanks Cobby. Used to love veal as a child. Didn't know what it was. Can't watch any more vids for a while. The last one on pigs in South Korea well and truly messed my head for a couple of days. It's still haunting me.
Happy to say, meat (apart from fish) is now off my menu.

Sven there are too many mouths to feed, and when different crops fail, and at times world wide, we have to be fed if possible. There will always be animal slaughter for the food chain and various other reasons. There is nothing to be done to stop it, other than maybe sending messages to other nations about how we abhor their barbaric cruelty and hope they will adjust to more humane ideas. Unfortunately, I think it will be a long, long, time.
Lets not forget, it is this generation who have consumed more meat. When I was young, we had a roast chicken at Easter, A turkey at Christmas, usually a roast beef or lamb dinner on Sunday and the meat lasted nearly all week from the joint. Chicken is like a daily meal in one form or another now, as is minced beef in lasagne, or bolognaise.
Who eats cheese pie instead of sausages, mushroom omlette and chips instead of burgers, baked potatoes and salad instead of sweet and sour chicken, for example.
The previous generation lived through a couple of world wars and were on rations for years, and I don't know how they managed. Bbq's are something which we hadn't heard of until the 1970's.
The only way meat will reduce in production is to make it more expensive until it is once again a luxury for everyone world wide. That or another world war to reduce the population! I know which I'd choose.
I actually wish that pigs could be killed more in line with halal, but not possible as their necks are too fat. The thought of them going into boiling pots alive (article link on the Walmart topic) is more distressing stuff and whoever can over see these dire happenings must in all honesty be desensitized, which in itself is quite worrying.


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There's simple easy no cost things people can do. But don't care they'reiinterested in self indulged satisfaction
Don't go to zoos
Buy synthetic clothes
Don't buy leather
Don't go to SeaWorld
Don't buy meat unless you trace it
Reduce your red meat
Don't buy fur in any form
Look into how products are made
Don't have leather in shoes bags cars etc
Think beyond your own consumption
Try soya milk
Give to the smaller less known animal charities
Educate yourself
Watch the cove , blackfish etc
Its easy. If millions do it it simply reduces demand
Or like most switch off open the gob and consume and await ill hhealth

Its a choice. Most don'tcare

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Dont go to Zoos?. So all the good work Chester Zoo does with their breeding programs will be lost.

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Theres a saying " the only animal that should be in a zoo is the zoo keeper"
Think about why they're actually in there!?
To save their extinction from us and our consuming lifestyles
If man can make a buck off an animal. He will
Kill it skin it breed it shoot it. Cage it. Make £ off it
Even expensive coffee is made through cruelty with civet cats caged and fed a diet purely of beans which isn't correct and they just die due to conditions
If you look into it the fact that breeding has to go on only in zoos is a sign of a bigger ill
Will we be happy when the only way to see bears tigers snow leopards or polar bears will be in a cage !!!??
Think about it......

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