Our Success is in our members who value our strength as a valued community.
Forum Statistics
Posts1,030,645
Topics75,895
Members13,829
Forums65
Posts in last 24hrs1
Most Online14,906
Nov 23rd, 2019
Who's Online Now
28 registered members (acharlesc, 6 invisible), 1,424 guests, and347 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Social Media : Follow Us


Popular Topics(Views 7days)
158 morgana
New General Forums
Viagra
by GingerTom. 5th May 2021 5:21pm
Viagra
by GingerTom. 5th May 2021 5:08pm
Friday .... etc :) have a fine one !!
by GaryFromWirral. 23rd Apr 2021 4:00pm
TV programme
by casper. 13th Apr 2021 4:32pm
New Wirral History
Viking Wirral map and current map
by derekdwc. 15th May 2021 12:22pm
Ritz car park and Hardings query
by derekdwc. 5th May 2021 11:37am
24 Beehive 133 Beckwith Street 133
by mikeeb. 2nd May 2021 12:46pm
Daily Mail's battle prattle
by yoller. 1st May 2021 3:39pm
Anyone recognise these doors?
by Ken_Doerr. 1st May 2021 9:55am
Forum Tips
Photo Gallery Forums
New Brighton Artwork
Boaty McBoatface takes shape
Topic Replies
Mirror maze
by Excoriator. 17th May 2021 12:10am
Tip run required from Bebington
by gerrymoore. 16th May 2021 9:58am
Viking Wirral map and current map
by mikeeb. 16th May 2021 9:01am
morgana
by GaryFromWirral. 11th May 2021 3:18pm
Local elections
by mikeeb. 11th May 2021 11:18am
Bultaco pursang
by BultacoAstro. 8th May 2021 1:45pm
Anyone recognise these doors?
by MissGuided. 7th May 2021 6:49pm
What song are you listening to?
by BultacoAstro. 7th May 2021 8:44am
Ritz car park and Hardings query
by joney. 6th May 2021 9:42am
May
M T W T F S S
1 2
3 4 5 6 7 8 9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30
31
Recent Posts : What's On ?
Previous Topic
Next Topic
Print Topic
Rate Topic
735 Grand Hotel / Royal Marine, New Brighton #856797
8th Feb 2014 6:53pm
8th Feb 2014 6:53pm
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 749
Wallasey
Norton Offline OP

Veteran
Norton  Offline OP

Veteran
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 749
Wallasey
Grand Hotel / Royal Marine, Union Terrace, New Brighton.
This hotel dates back to the mid 1800's but was demolished in the 2000's, before realistic plans for New Brighton became a reality. There is now a gap where it once stood, which is used as a car park, between the Queens Royal and Bobbys Bar (now the Portofini Italiana).
We would call it part of Union Terrace, on Marine Promenade nowadays, but the original building predates this name and before the promenade was built, it was refered to being on 'The Shore' or 'The Strand'.
Records and information from 1857 and 1883 refer to it as The Marine Hotel, but by 1902 and 1910 (see advert below) it had become The Royal Marine in the hands of John Owen.
Sometime later it became The Grand, and this is what most people remember it as.
For some reason it has not had its own entry, but you can read more about it in the Chat area, which is where I have borrowed the picture, below.

Attached Files
marine hotel cr.JPG (264 downloads)
Wish you were here? c 1910
The Grand.jpg (264 downloads)
The end is near for The Grand.
Google Ads
Re: 735 Grand Hotel / Royal Marine, New Brighton [Re: Norton] #856805
8th Feb 2014 8:34pm
8th Feb 2014 8:34pm
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,390
Wirral
Moonstar Offline

Forum Addict
Moonstar  Offline

Forum Addict
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,390
Wirral
So sometime after 1910 another floor and widening was added, or was there a disaster which caused rebuilding?

Re: 735 Grand Hotel / Royal Marine, New Brighton [Re: Moonstar] #857002
9th Feb 2014 2:29pm
9th Feb 2014 2:29pm
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 749
Wallasey
Norton Offline OP

Veteran
Norton  Offline OP

Veteran
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 749
Wallasey
It would seem so.

It appears that it was extensivelt re-modelled in the 1940's leading to a 'grand' re-opening and re-christening by the actress Mae West in 1947.

The following etract from Mae Wests blog page has its origins with the Liverpool Echo.

"In Great Britain, an historic seaside hotel visited by Hollywood film stars - - and personally re-christened by Mae West in 1947 after a major renovation - - has been demolished despite campaigners attempts to save it. An article in the Liverpool Echo pictured Mae West during her 1947 British tour, and made no mention of any other notables associated with this landmark except for our beloved American actress. Nice to see such respect for Mae, still one of a kind. The article is excerpted below.
New Brighton's Grand Hotel was built in the 1850s, and when it was revamped in the 20th century it was given a glitzy reopening by film icon Mae West.
In its heydey the Grand was just that. It was one of the most popular and glamorous hotels in the area attracting visitors from all over the country. At cocktail hour a pianist would serenade guests from a revolving turntable, while later there was a Spanish restaurant where dinner dances were held nightly. In 1953 an advert for the hotel read: "Boldly situated on the broad seafront and commanding magnificent views of the ever changing panorama of river and sea... an hotel of infinite charm, supreme comfort and personality." But with the decline in popularity of New Brighton, the hotel became a nightclub and then, for the last 15 years, had been derelict and an eyesore. ...
When Mae came to Merseyside
HOLLYWOOD siren Mae West is not someone you would expect to see on a wet weekend in Merseyside. But the star was in Liverpool in 1947 to perform the play she wrote herself, Diamond Lil, at the Liverpool Empire. Billed as a "World-famous comedy melodrama of the gay Nineties" it played in the city for two weeks in November, and was revived three times on Broadway. ...
excerpt from: "Life of grand old building is brought to a sorry end"
By Homa Khaleeli, Liverpool Echo, 15 March 2006"

By looking a a sucession of OS maps, there is no real change to the position or outline of the main building. The glass roofed extension to the right (west) end gains a permanent roof and the front steps go fron a straight flight to having steps to the left and right in a T shape for a number of years, reverting to a straigh flight again sometime later.

Also, just noticed that Elvis Costell and The Attractions played there 0n 23rd September 1978.

Attached Files
UnionTerrace1876.png (210 downloads)
Union Terrace 1876, with the Marine and Queens Royal hotels.
UnionTerrace1954.png (210 downloads)
Union Terrace 1954, with the Marine and Queens Royal hotels.
Re: 735 Grand Hotel / Royal Marine, New Brighton [Re: Norton] #857235
10th Feb 2014 12:33pm
10th Feb 2014 12:33pm
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 90
United Kingdom
W
wellie111 Offline
Member
wellie111  Offline
Member
W
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 90
United Kingdom
the band I was in (xs baggage) supported elvis Costello that night. it was a great night the grand was packed. didn't get out of there till the early hours

Re: 735 Grand Hotel / Royal Marine, New Brighton [Re: Norton] #859035
18th Feb 2014 8:19am
18th Feb 2014 8:19am
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 127
bebington
E
europa1 Offline
Enthusiast
europa1  Offline
Enthusiast
E
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 127
bebington
I was on the roof in 1971. There was a roof top terrace with a small building which had a bar hatch. Apparently this had been instituted following the big re vamp but had not been used for at least ten years when I saw it. The area was littered with rotting deckchairs. When it was the Marine Hotel (until fairly recently there was a gatepost on the Wellington Road side which bore that name, I do not know if it is still there) about 1915 it nearly lost the licence because of youths 'as young as 15' acquiring alcohol and grouping in large numbers and causing anti social problems.

Re: 735 Grand Hotel / Royal Marine, New Brighton [Re: Norton] #983632
15th Sep 2015 12:16pm
15th Sep 2015 12:16pm
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 21
Wirral
Suzie Offline

Newbeee
Suzie  Offline

Newbeee
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 21
Wirral
I used to work in the Grand in its night club hey days when it was packed to the rafters with over 18's dancing to the latest hits! Drinkers were treated to cocktails like tequila sunrise and blue lagoons and in the "in crowd" drank the American bottled beer Shlitz!
It was seen to be more sophisticated than the Chelsea reach and definitely better than the Penny Farthing!..
Truth be known they were all as bad as each other..in my opinion the best place to go was The Empress in Victoria Road!

Last edited by Susan; 15th Sep 2015 12:18pm.

Live,laugh,love,time passes far too quickly for regrets!
Re: 735 Grand Hotel / Royal Marine, New Brighton [Re: Norton] #983781
16th Sep 2015 12:09pm
16th Sep 2015 12:09pm
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 749
Wallasey
Norton Offline OP

Veteran
Norton  Offline OP

Veteran
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 749
Wallasey
Yesterday (Tuesday 15th Sept) I saw a workman attaching a 'FOR AUCTION' sign on one of the existing sales boards.

Re: 735 Grand Hotel / Royal Marine, New Brighton [Re: Suzie] #995767
21st Dec 2015 11:49pm
21st Dec 2015 11:49pm
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 562
London
E
Erainn Offline
Smartchild
Erainn  Offline
Smartchild
E
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 562
London
Ahh The Empress, Friday nights? Rock and cheap beer smile

Re: 735 Grand Hotel / Royal Marine, New Brighton [Re: Erainn] #995783
22nd Dec 2015 8:59am
22nd Dec 2015 8:59am
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 211
wirral
palemoon Offline
Addict
palemoon  Offline
Addict
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 211
wirral
Originally Posted by Erainn
Ahh The Empress, Friday nights? Rock and cheap beer smile
.......followed by a visit to A&E fight

Re: 735 Grand Hotel / Royal Marine, New Brighton [Re: palemoon] #1002175
22nd Feb 2016 4:45pm
22nd Feb 2016 4:45pm
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 562
London
E
Erainn Offline
Smartchild
Erainn  Offline
Smartchild
E
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 562
London
was it that bad? my recall of it thankfully has no punch ups smile

Re: 735 Grand Hotel / Royal Marine, New Brighton [Re: Norton] #1004314
13th Mar 2016 7:44pm
13th Mar 2016 7:44pm
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 5
wallasey
B
Bilbo Offline
Beginner
Bilbo  Offline
Beginner
B
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 5
wallasey
me and my mates had many a good night in the grand.

Re: 735 Grand Hotel / Royal Marine, New Brighton [Re: Norton] #1005113
23rd Mar 2016 5:27pm
23rd Mar 2016 5:27pm
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 749
Wallasey
Norton Offline OP

Veteran
Norton  Offline OP

Veteran
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 749
Wallasey
Advert for 'The Grand' from 1971

Attached Files
img643.jpg (65 downloads)
Re: 735 Grand Hotel / Royal Marine, New Brighton [Re: Norton] #1005128
23rd Mar 2016 7:27pm
23rd Mar 2016 7:27pm
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 329
Wirral
S
Santos Offline
Old Hand
Santos  Offline
Old Hand
S
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 329
Wirral
I remember the Grand Hotel had a Cocktail Lounge in the basement, think it was called The Spanish Garden. They had a pianist there in the lounge who used to get drunk so much so he kept falling off his stool. Very amusing.

Re: 735 Grand Hotel / Royal Marine, New Brighton [Re: Norton] #1024981
1st Nov 2016 11:58am
1st Nov 2016 11:58am
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 749
Wallasey
Norton Offline OP

Veteran
Norton  Offline OP

Veteran
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 749
Wallasey
I noticed yesterday that the site has just been fenced off with high boards and a security gate.

Can't see any planning applications for it yet.

Re: 735 Grand Hotel / Royal Marine, New Brighton [Re: Norton] #1034783
9th Apr 2017 12:07pm
9th Apr 2017 12:07pm
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 516
Ecuador
tigertiger1953 Offline

Smartchild
tigertiger1953  Offline

Smartchild
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 516
Ecuador
Great picture thank you. I remember going there for Sunday Lunch with my parents around the time this picture was taken. It was still 'Grand' then and the music system was playing Spanish Eyes.


Moderated by  Mod 

Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
Mirror maze
by Excoriator. 17th May 2021 12:10am
Viking Wirral map and current map
by derekdwc. 15th May 2021 12:22pm
morgana
by GaryFromWirral. 11th May 2021 3:18pm
Local elections
by mikeeb. 7th May 2021 12:24pm
Ritz car park and Hardings query
by derekdwc. 5th May 2021 11:37am
For Sale & Free
Tip run required from Bebington
by gerrymoore. 12th May 2021 9:26am
CO2 pub gas refill needed
by gerrymoore. 4th May 2021 2:14pm
Vauxhall meriva 1.4 VXR rep
by paul110180. 2nd May 2021 11:15am
THREE SEATER SOFA..LEATHER
by lainy. 24th Apr 2021 6:52pm
Computer DVD disc drive
by GingerTom. 13th Apr 2021 5:46pm
Member Spotlight
TheComputerLab
TheComputerLab
Wallasey
Posts: 1,311
Joined: May 2011
Show All Member Profiles 
Newest Members
Reno17, Idiotunchained, JamesBrain, Mxael, pseudokim
13829 Registered Users
Today's Birthdays
MisterSmiff (41)
New Wirral Info
Mirror maze
by Excoriator. 17th May 2021 12:10am
Local elections
by mikeeb. 7th May 2021 12:24pm
Super glue on glasses lens
by mikeeb. 16th Apr 2021 4:28pm
weekend break
by lincle. 15th Apr 2021 5:08pm
Clatterbridge tip
by cools. 28th Mar 2021 4:02pm
News : New Topics
India covid crisis
by cools. 29th Apr 2021 12:42pm
M53 closure
by lincle. 19th Apr 2021 10:28am
New Enthusiast Forums
morgana
by GaryFromWirral. 11th May 2021 3:18pm
SystemOfADown
by GaryFromWirral. 9th Feb 2021 3:59pm
Bultaco pursang
by Bultaco. 13th Mar 2019 12:43pm
Bidston Hill Underground Tunnels Part 2
by robbo_theman. 23rd Sep 2008 8:58pm
What song are you listening to?
by . 24th Jun 2007 10:06am
Popular Topics(Views 24hrs)
Wirral Sunrise Sunset
Sunrise Mon 5:07am
Sunset Mon 9:10pm
Local Time Mon 3:02pm
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.1.1