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Rambo #845527 24th Dec 2013 12:21am
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Sorry to hear that Rambo, you sound very bitter.

You have not quoted correctly.
Red script failed to include working mums.
Green script I said ,women with any sense.
Neither did I mention anyone raising a finger to anyone.
My first post included at the end...that was my opinion, so you don't have to agree, but its still my opinion and you can call me any names you like if it makes you feel better.
Did their mother pay you maintenance?
I'm sure you did an excellent job and you should be proud of yourself. Happy Christmas


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Originally Posted by chriskay
Originally Posted by RUDEBOX
Hey- ho, as long as it saves the tax-payer a few quid-


How are children affected by domestic violence ?
The majority of children witness the violence that is occurring, and in 90% of cases they are in the same or next room (Hughes, 1992). Children can 'witness' domestic violence in many different ways. For example, they may get caught in the middle of an incident in an effort to make the violence stop. They may be in the room next door and hear the abuse or see their mother's physical injuries following an incident of violence. They may be forced to stay in one room or may not be allowed to play. They may be forced to witness sexual abuse or they may be forced to take part in verbally abusing the victim. All children witnessing domestic violence are being emotionally abused.



Are the effects the same for every child?

Children can experience both short and long term cognitive, behavioural and emotional effects as a result of witnessing domestic abuse. Each child will respond differently to trauma and some may be resilient and not exhibit any negative effects.

Children's responses to the trauma of witnessing DV may vary according to a multitude of factors including, but not limited to, age, race, sex and stage of development. It is equally important to remember that these responses may also be caused by something other than witnessing domestic violence, and therefore a thorough assessment of a child's situation is vital.

Children are individuals and may respond to witnessing abuse in different ways. These are some of the effects described in a briefing by the Royal College of Psychiatrists (2004):

They may become anxious or depressed
They may have difficulty sleeping
They have nightmares or flashbacks
They can be easily startled
They may complain of physical symptoms such as tummy aches
They may start to wet their bed
They may have temper tantrums
They may behave as though they are much younger than they are
They may have problems with school
They may become aggressive or they may internalise their distress and withdraw from other people
They may have a lowered sense of self-worth
Older children may begin to play truant or start to use alcohol or drugs
They may begin to self-harm by taking overdoses or cutting themselves
They may have an eating disorder
Children may also feel angry, guilty, insecure, alone, frightened, powerless or confused. They may have ambivalent feelings towards both the abuser and the non-abusing parent.


Why drag domestic violence into it? (I see you even have an acronym for it). It may be one reason for separation but I suspect more are as a result of infidelity. Maybe you should add to your list of consequences:
They may grow up to be well adjusted members of society.
I bring DV into it as some people seem to think that marriages should exist in the 21st century with no equality just like they did in the 1800s. Of course- DV is not the exclusive reason for divorce/seperating couples. There are many reasons... The acronym in my OP is not mine- I copied and pasted an article.
However, I do use that acronym amongst many others, both verbally and written as a direct result of working with peeps affected by modern day social ills.

Everything is so black and white for those who live in the last century, with all respect.

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I raised the point about the acronym because, to my mind, it diminishes the power of the original concept, which is of such importance that it needs emphasis, not diminution.
If you're quoting the work of someone else, it's courteous to include an acknowledgement.

You lived in the last century, didn't you? wink
Anyway, Merry Christmas.



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Originally Posted by RUDEBOX
Hey- ho, as long as it saves the tax-payer a few quid-



So will somebody send me £50.00 each week from the tax payers if it is so trivial and insignificant. I mean why save the tax payer anything? Hey Ho!

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Absolutley, domestic violence is not the most common reason for divorce, but when it is, I really don't think it can be related in any way to those looking for equality. Domestic violence is pure bullying and controlling, so how that can be part of the 'equality process' of the present century, I fail to realise.
The other difficult and on going trauma for children subjected to domestic violence is the fact that their parents, fathers and mothers more often than not bring new partners into their lives, at the drop of a hat hoping everyone will integrate as one big happy family. If it doesn't work, they have another partner to add to the mix. Natural parents can rarely be replaced emotionally.Maybe they will have to deal with half brothers and sisters or step brothers and sisters. This above all must screw the childrens minds up, and sets an example of how to behave in their future.


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Originally Posted by eddie64
just got a letter off csa informing me i have to pay 340.00 pound a month for my two kids,argued that i couldnt afford that much so they droped it to 240.00 a month,i have never not provided for my kids since i have been back in work i have bought them anything they needed i have them at weekends and any time i can.so please tell me why my ex wife who has got her own business fiddles the books earns in a fortnight what i can only hope to earn in a month can get away with it,and yet can get full rent paid,full council tax paid,working tax credit and child tax credit.yet they dont take into acount my council tax my rent and other living costs.this system stinks and needs a rethink.


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