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OK, but you are receiving housing benefit, it's a benefit. You have spare rooms.
Move to a smaller house.
I hear people saying that there are no smaller houses or 1 bed flats etc, this is where I can understand the issue that you are being forced to pay it as you physically can't downsize?
Anyone annoyed at having to move from a house they are receiving benefit on has no right to complain.
I've said before I've not got all the facts and figures but on the face of it the reforms are entirely fair, provided they can implement it and perhaps they haven't got the housing stock to do so.
Is there any alternative?
There are more and more people claiming and less money to give them.
It needs to come from somewhere. Disgusting, narrow minded point of view.Do ya research, mrs.
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yes Madonna fan, of course more and more people are claiming housing benefit and will do so while this unelected Government keeps persuading Councils to put people out of work, more claiming job seekers allowance, more unable to pay council tax, less money to spend in shops and pubs putting even more out of work, it's just a destructive cycle. Bennie.
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yes Madonna fan, of course more and more people are claiming housing benefit and will do so while this unelected Government keeps persuading Councils to put people out of work, more claiming job seekers allowance, more unable to pay council tax, less money to spend in shops and pubs putting even more out of work, it's just a destructive cycle. Bennie.  Madfonnafan, I appreciate that the money has got to come from somewhere, but the massive cuts the governmrent are making is just resulting in job losses and therefore more people claiming benefits. How does that work? If everybody who is required to downsize turned up at the housing office at the same time and said "Ok I'll move" but they couldn't find enough smaller places for them, what do you think should happen then?
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Wirral has 0.7% of available 1 bed stock in the social housing sector.
(Source is WPH FOI request. December '12).
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Its the effin bankers that have the money!!! They caused all this in the first place-them and the twotty Bullingdon Club!!!!
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There may or may not be riots, but it's not a case of refusing to pay, since nobody will be asked to "pay" at all; they will simply get reduced benefit. chriskay, you've mentioned what this is called by people on wikiwirral a few times. But does it really matter if it's called a 'bedroom tax' or a 'reduction in benefits'? The result is the same, if people cannot move they will be worse off financially. I think 'Will this new law that dictates how many bedrooms you need if you're claiming benefits (and have more than we deem you need) affect you?' is more of a mouthful than 'bedroom tax'.
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Well said, Zubee.
Who cares what it is called?
Bedroom tax
Underoccupancy penalty
Spare room subsidy
WHATEVER!!
Shills are alive and well.
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OK, but you are receiving housing benefit, it's a benefit. You have spare rooms.
Move to a smaller house.
I hear people saying that there are no smaller houses or 1 bed flats etc, this is where I can understand the issue that you are being forced to pay it as you physically can't downsize?
Anyone annoyed at having to move from a house they are receiving benefit on has no right to complain.
I've said before I've not got all the facts and figures but on the face of it the reforms are entirely fair, provided they can implement it and perhaps they haven't got the housing stock to do so.
Is there any alternative?
There are more and more people claiming and less money to give them.
It needs to come from somewhere. Disgusting, narrow minded point of view.Do ya research, mrs. Life is unfair, whether its the bedroom tax OR people who do work and are having their wages frozen. It costs money to go to work ie public transport costs going up, petrol going up, our company at some sites you have to pay to park the car at work and its taken out of your wages each month, so as well as paying tunnel fees, petrol and then payiny each month to park the car most of your FROZEN wages are gone.
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I think it will encourage more people to think about buying a house if they are in work - even banks can be lenient on those who have unfortunately become redundant and negotiate lower payments - wonder what will happen to those who are on benefits at that time. House shares will be on the rise now - maybe it could be a good thing just getting benefit for your immediate needs. Solution - probably adopt some kids to keep the spare room.
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Last edited by rottylady; 12th Mar 2013 1:38pm.
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Salmon, I never said the government are making massive cuts in benefits. That would be impossible with the amount of people they're putting out of work at the moment.
Last edited by Zubee; 12th Mar 2013 6:22pm.
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