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http://www.insidehousing.co.uk/home/blogs/marching-on/6526093.blog#commentsubmittedCan’t pay won’t pay!’ is the cry coming from many of the anti-bedroom tax protestors in Merseyside. Summoning up the spirit of the mass non-payment of the poll tax in the late 1980s, campaign groups and tenants say they will refuse to pay. The similarities with the poll tax do not end there.
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The similarities with the poll tax do not end there.
Riots stopped the poll tax and Riots are gonna stop the bedroom tax!!!
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There may or may not be riots, but it's not a case of refusing to pay, since nobody will be asked to "pay" at all; they will simply get reduced benefit.
Carpe diem.
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Couldn't see anything wrong with the poll tax, the widow next door living on her own was going to pay less council tax than me with a bigger family using more of the services. Then eventually you get older yourself and realise that you are paying the same council tax as the big family next door and there's only you on your own or just you and your missus. What goes round comes round was the way it was supposed to be in my opinion.
Birkenhead........ God's own Room 101.
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There may or may not be riots, but it's not a case of refusing to pay, since nobody will be asked to "pay" at all; they will simply get reduced benefit. So are you saying that we will not have to "PAY" the Difference, out of our other income to "PAY" the bedroom tax. Great news all chriskay say's we dont have to "PAY" our bedroom tax
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Is it fair to say that if people put as much effort into earning an extra £x amount per month required as they are putting into rioting, groups, meetings etc etc then it really wouldn't be an issue?
I don't want to fall out with people on this issue but I do wonder why people feel they should have more than they need, especially when they are being provided with it.
I have never received anything from the government and fingers crossed I never will. If I choose to have a child, I need to be able to make sure I can afford it and make that decision, many people don't as they'll be given extra benefits to cover it.
If I move house and have 2 bedrooms and 1 child, I can't have another child unless they bunk in together or I move house...
Nobody is going to give me a bigger house and some extra money to cope.
Far too many people are happy to sit and take take take with zero attempt to get a job.
I wonder how many people moaning about the bedroom tax could easily cover, for example, £60 a month by cancelling their Sky TV or by smoking a couple less packets of cigarettes a week?
Putting the tunnel toll up by 10p is a tax on people who just want to get to work, I'm not planning a riot.
There's two sides to all this, there always is. There will be people who genuinely won't be able to cope with the drop in benefits each month - but of those people there will be people who could cope by getting a job...
I have in the past been accused of living life with rose tinted specs though.
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Madonnafan, people in work, will have to pay the bedroom tax, if they recieve housing benefit as well, it is not just the DISABLED, the SICK,the PENSIONERS, the UNEMPLOYED who will have to pay the bedroom tax. £60 a month is the average cost of 1 room spare, & £92month if 2 rooms, thats a lot of money if your living on the breadline.
I dont know were people get the idea from (O yes i do its from the mail & the sun) that everyone unemployed on benefits smoke,drink,have sky tv, the lastest iphones, big flash cars, and holidays all year round, I have to laugh when i hear the govt & Ignorant people go on about the welfare benefit scroungers, Fact: according to the DWP's own figures, the majority of all welfare spending is on pensioners 53% with out of work benefits accounting for less than a quarter of the welfare budget.
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OK, but you are receiving housing benefit, it's a benefit. You have spare rooms.
Move to a smaller house.
I hear people saying that there are no smaller houses or 1 bed flats etc, this is where I can understand the issue that you are being forced to pay it as you physically can't downsize?
Anyone annoyed at having to move from a house they are receiving benefit on has no right to complain.
I've said before I've not got all the facts and figures but on the face of it the reforms are entirely fair, provided they can implement it and perhaps they haven't got the housing stock to do so.
Is there any alternative?
There are more and more people claiming and less money to give them.
It needs to come from somewhere.
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hi rudebox, i am going to appeal to WBC, on 2 points, the high rent, and the fact why should i be charged bedroom tax on a room that is not a bedroom but a 55sqft box room, my god i am going to try and persuade as many people as possible to appeal at the meeting on thursday night.
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hi rudebox, i am going to appeal to WBC, on 2 points, the high rent, and the fact why should i be charged bedroom tax on a room that is not a bedroom but a 55sqft box room, my god i am going to try and persuade as many people as possible to appeal at the meeting on thursday night. The Leasowe meeting or the Unite Community Meeting- or something else?? This policy is failing before it has even begun!!
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The similarities with the poll tax do not end there.
Riots stopped the poll tax and Riots are gonna stop the bedroom tax!!! 16th March at 1pm, Liverpool Courts- NOT A RIOT- however some Liverpudlian groups have took offense to this being arranged by a 'Labour Group' and aint happy about it. I really hope that there is no trouble-will just give mass media an excuse to write biased pieces..... The 1200 strong congregation in Bootle last week attracted no general media to write up reports. There is a media blackout.
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