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poor or posh, they will all go to the same resting place

I think charged garden waste collection is appreciable. You have said that the garden tax will be met by all taxpayers. What if some of the residents don’t own or have garden, Garden tax will be not fair and burdensome to them.

One should have ones gardener take away the garden waste, or just have ones man to place it in the green bin if the brown bin service is stopped.

Very true sunnyside, BUT not in the brown bin. I tried that with the Mother-in-Law and they wouldn't take her !!

Would appear that they are looking at a charge of £35 per year and it will be an opt in scheme rather than an opt out scheme.

If the current number of people with a brown bin, 112,000, all opt in, then the Council will make £3,920,000. less of course collection costs.

The articul says " Under the current system, 112,000 homes in Wirral – around 77% – have a brown bin for garden waste but the cost is met by all taxpayers." By inference it is questioning WHY SHOULD ALL C/TAX PAYERS PAY FOR SERVICES THEY DON'T NEED OR USE. Good point i thought. It also says "the council tries to find £100m in savings over the next three years." £100m is the exact figure that Wirral Partnership Homes had recently been boasting (on the side of liscard House)that they are spending in refurbishing social housing with new insulation and new kitchens and bathrooms ect. I wish i could have all those things done to my privately owned house and forcibly pass on the cost lots of people by the way of higher C/Tax and or less services for their C/Tax money. Directives from the EU screwing you further.

Wirral Borough Corporation, Yes it is a corporation it has a corporate business plan. A Business looking to do more Business.

Posh in Pensby my axxe.I lived in North End before moving here so posh is the last thing I am.As for brown bins we managed before we had them and we never asked for them.Wheres all the money from the compost and the recycled bits and bobs going to.

£35 would cover quite a few car trips to take garden waste to the tip, for those who can manage that. Of course that would place extra pressure on the tip, with additional disposal skips, costs of transporting the stuff away etc. The fly-tipping possibilities don't bear thinking about.

For several months of the year the brown bins are not much used; I wonder if they could make savings by just running the service between, say, May and October?

I thought the whole intention was to make savings! Now so far as I understand, we already pay council tax for this service which was added on a few years ago. If our council tax is supposedly frozen, how on earth are the Council entitled to even consider , asking us for more council tax, because that is what it becomes. Maybe we could request that they remove and dispose of, our garden waste bins.How much would that cost? We wouldn't want them, would we?

Yes, a big increase in fly-tipping would be on the cards for sure. Town Hall steps would an excellent site in the wee small hours!

In my neck of the woods, they stop the brown bin collection from December to March, which does make sense. During that time they will uplift your brown bin FOC if you phone them with 5 days notice. It seems a good idea and must result in savings. Surely WBC could do something similar ??

If the collection becomes an 'opt in or opt out' senario, it makes no sense either. Mainly because Biffa will still be visiting every street, road, lane in Wirral to collect from those who 'opt in'. No savings to be made just indirectly asking us to pay more to Biffa, who are able to pay their staff trebble time on Bank Holidays! The Council have a contract with Biffa, so the costs should not be an overall 'per head' evaluation.
Agreed the collections could be stopped between December and March. At the moment one collection every two weeks is 25 collections per years. So the charge will be approx £1.50 per empty. So if 6 collections are stopped over winter that would reduce the amount to approx £25 per annum per head.
Each empty must take all of 30 secs! What does that equate to, per hour? Any mathematicians out there? If collections of the brown bin are halted by many in an opt out scheme, there will no doubt need to be an increase in green bin collections! Which seems to bring us back to the beginning, before brown bins were here.

Have I systematically got myself into knots on this?

You make it clear as (garden) mud, Granny.
It does seem incredibly stupid to suggest an opt in scheme as those who opt out than have to dispose of the garden rubbish themselves. The obvious way is to compost which is what I have started to do but not everybody is in a position to have a compost bin or plot due to space etc.
As you rightly point out most would just fill the green bins instead which defeats the object and causes more overflowing green bins with all the inherent problems that causes.The only other option for people will be trips to the tip and with pressure on all countries and thus councils to meet green targets this would have an adverse effect.

Ah well. Whooops...not you Salmon! Wrong thread maybe?

Could be the answer to the council