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Yes Santas suit was originally green back when he was known as St Nicholas, he then had a totally different meaning to the Santa Clause we know today.
The truth behind the Santa we see in our times came about in the early 1950's and someone we all know very well helped to create this image.
Coca Cola had a problem with sales in some European contries at the time due to 2 reasons.
1. Post war depression
2. Unknown product hard to introduce due to the depression.
To make the product saleable world wide they had to come up with a sales pitch to capture this market. One clever sales marketer sent to Europe was studying up on childrens stories whilst there and came across St Nicholas, a man who gave willingly to children so that they may have some joy in their poor lives and decided to spread the sales of cola with a jolly fat man in a red and white suit, which perfectly matched their product colours, and instilled a feeling of joy about a man like St. nicholas who gave presents one day of each year to enrich their lives even just for a while.
Not knowing this was created just to sell a product the Europeans took to it like a duck to water in the thought that America had stories similar to their own fabled St nicholas.
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Tony, Tony, Tony.... Coca-cola's marketing of their product at Christmas with Santa began well before the 1950's. It was during the 1930's that they started showing Santa clutching a bottle of Coca-cola. And they didn't change his colours from green to red. Even their own web-site says it's a myth... http://www.thecoca-colacompany.com/heritage/cokelore_santa.html That's you on the naughty list now...
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Christmas is taking place on the 25th December
Don`t miss it
HAPPY CHRISTMAS :-) Do you know this for a fact or did your mate see it on someone's wall on Facebook 
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Tony, Tony, Tony..
Santa wasn't nailed to the cross so you could get your facts wrong.
God help us,
Come yourself,
Don't send Jesus,
This is no place for children.
Bertieone.
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Ooo geekus you learn something new everyday 
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Tony, Tony, Tony..
Santa wasn't nailed to the cross so you could get your facts wrong. You see Tony, that's why he was red, not green. ...and to think that, as an historical researcher, you're supposed to be a future bert1. 
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Tony, Tony, Tony.... Coca-cola's marketing of their product at Christmas with Santa began well before the 1950's. It was during the 1930's that they started showing Santa clutching a bottle of Coca-cola. And they didn't change his colours from green to red. Even their own web-site says it's a myth... http://www.thecoca-colacompany.com/heritage/cokelore_santa.html That's you on the naughty list now... only did a quick copy and paste job from google. i accept my punishment
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No worries mate. Just don't be telling us in another few months time that the Easter Bunny was a member of the Hitler Youth...
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Fascinating stuff from all you "clever clogs". I really enjoyed reading all your information on this subject 
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No worries mate. Just don't be telling us in another few months time that the Easter Bunny was a member of the Hitler Youth... was he not? haha
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No worries mate. Just don't be telling us in another few months time that the Easter Bunny was a member of the Hitler Youth... Not as strange as it sounds is it Geekus, Nazi communion and all that.
God help us,
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This is no place for children.
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The way that the Nazi Party tried to re-write the history of the World it wouldn't surprise me if some people believe that he was.
If you've ever read George Orwell's novel '1984' you'll be well aware of the slogan 'he who controls the past, controls the future'.
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Sounds more like any wife rather than 1984.
I was however referring to the Nazi party new influx of youth at Easter time every year, but of course you are right, he who controls the past........
God help us,
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This is no place for children.
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I must dig out my documents from when i did the christmas origins briefly whilst doing history at A level.
I will write some of it up and we can clarify the whole Christmas malarky.
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