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That's just daft.

Exactly lol. That was the point.

oh okay, haha

"What about 50 innocent adults attacked to one kid being abused? How many adults equal a child? "..........exo , my question regarding innocent people getting beaten up was aimed at your friend exposure, that is his claim, i have made no claim about the CHRIS site saving any child...

50 adults attacked to every abused child?????

There are over 20,000 kids sexually abused every year, so if that figure is correct - then there are one million adults attacked every year!

Not sure that we're friends - I agree with a lot of what s/he has to say but this is the first time I've ever spoken to him/her.

Exposer didn't make a claim, s/he gave an example of a hypothetical ratio to make a point...

It would seem a pointless hypothetical example, about as equally valid as saying if nobody had children then there would be no child abuse.

You can't take retribution into account, every crime (and every action) has a chance of retribution, should every criminal remain anonymous?

Depends on what sort of crime they commited imo. Voilent and sexual criminals should NOT be anonymous. Out the barstard and see how they like it when they have the fear of god put in them.

I wasnt havin a dig at you dig. lol. sorry mate, couldnt resist that one.
I agree with you by the way just that I dont think ALL criminals should have the luxury of anonymity. After all, the tax payer is paying for this and we are supposed to be saving money in this country.

I didn't think you were lol

I think everybody should be anonymous up to trial, and agree with public trial system BUT once convicted it, they should be public convictions. Pretty much as it is now other than pre-trial is currently in the public domain.

i'm a peer support counsellor, work with two other blokes who run a small charity dealing with people who've suffered psychosexual trauma.
the bit i was saying about being arrested was that most people we see have had issues with people in authority and ended up being arrested at some point, mostly public order, drunk and dissorderly etc. obviously some have been more involved in criminal activities.
we don't work with abusers, the prison service did ask but we declined.

as you say and i'm sure most people would agree that children experimenting is a perfectly natural part of growing up.

sorry ex0 but davva is right. if sarah payne wouldn't of died then you it is highly un likely it would of made the national press.

i'm not in anyway trying to trivialise what happened to sarah payne but we are working with a couple of people at the moment and the things that happened to then as children is very disturbing to say the least. one of them is writing his 'story' at the moment and believe me it makes a child called it read like a disney fairy tale.

ex0, I am a male, just to save you the p.c'ness




Search "vigilante attacks on paedophiles" and you'll find plenty of cases where there was no conviction of sex offenses. Even in the cases where they were proven child abusers, who's saying it's right to kill or beat that person when they have done their time? Thats vigilantism, and vigilantism is a crime.



What are you talking about? There are alot of people hunting them, but they think they're hunting "raping killing monsters", yet most paedophiles are unlikely to be either of those things. If a paedophile dares to confess his/her illegal attraction, then he/she is in line to be stabbed by a mob member. The mob, is all those chanting along with CHRIS, and they are painting paedophiles to be this way, so when one of them does murder a paedophile, it will be seen as heroic and socially acceptable. You think children want this for their future, where they're encouraged to hate and hunt a minority of people, who are most likely living terrifed lives? If you think all paedophiles are 'kiddy fiddlers', then you really don't know what the term means and you don't understand the diversity of human nature.



There is no 'child-love' in raping and killing a little girl, so Roy Whiting was not a paedophile in the true meaning of the word. His psychologist DID make that claim.



Ok then, 10 adults attacked, where's the balance just so i know? If it results in innocent people being attacked (no matter how many), then it's not the way forward, simples.
Do you have any sources for 20,000 kids being sexually abused every year being a FACT?



Yes they should. If they are not fit to be in society, then dont have them in society. If they are released back into society upon approval, they have a right to get on with their lives without the fear of being attacked by some thug. You don't get it do you, CHRIS promotes hatred and violence, and a simple verbal denial of that doesn't quite cut it.




Pre-trial suspects should NOT be in the public domain, and its a wreckless media and weak politicians that have allowed that.
CHRIS claims he "only touches on the convicted", but that's an outright lie. I would have to repeat myself now, so please look at my earlier posts as to who else he lists.



Do you think CHRIS helps prevent children from being killed, or encourages adults to be killed? With most sexual-abuse happening within the family, its the family home that is then listed on CHRIS. Children are going to get hurt too, but this St George wannabee doesn't look further than his ego, and his supporters don't look further than their desire for self-righteousness and violence.

I give up on this topic, seems that there is a massive gulf in opinions/views and beliefs to have an open debate. People are going round in circles now.

I think most of the gulf is people with kids and people without.