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The Eastern was bought at the end of 2009, it is not subject to contract, it is bought outright.
The people who were at the Eastern on 24th Feb were testing for asbestos. Plans have been submitted for the demolishion of the former pub, and the erection of 10 x 2 bed semi detached homes.
The planning application can now be viewed online, the plans were submitted last thursday.
The original plans were refused on a number of grounds. Aside from the look of the apartments, there were also some health and safety issues surrounding the original plans.
I must add though that I find it astonishing that the only time this building gets any kind of attention is when there are discussions or plans to remove it.
If this is such a local icon, why are there no petitions created to restore it to it's former glory?
I doubt that many local residents who are forced to view this eyesore on a daily basis approve of the state it has become.
Personally I think that knocking this down to create new homes will be a vast improvement.
Good for the local economy, creating jobs for the building trade and offering smart new homes for the already struggling first time buyer.
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Plans have been submitted for the demolishion of the former pub, and the erection of 10 x 2 bed semi detached homes.
I must add though that I find it astonishing that the only time this building gets any kind of attention is when there are discussions or plans to remove it.
If this is such a local icon, why are there no petitions created to restore it to it's former glory?
I doubt that many local residents who are forced to view this eyesore on a daily basis approve of the state it has become.
Personally I think that knocking this down to create new homes will be a vast improvement.
Good for the local economy, creating jobs for the building trade and offering smart new homes for the already struggling first time buyer.
I didnt shop in lewis but i will be sorry to see it go,with the recession who can afford to buy houses
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If this is such a local icon, why are there no petitions created to restore it to it's former glory?
I doubt that many local residents who are forced to view this eyesore on a daily basis approve of the state it has become.
Personally I think that knocking this down to create new homes will be a vast improvement.
There was a paper petition put together by a resident back in 2008 when the first application was submitted to demolish it. I am trying to trace that resident and to see what happened to the petition then. Residents were indeed alarmed at the prospect then, and are so again. I suppose some of us had been naive enough to think that someone might buy the building and do something sympathetic with it. The building is certainly not an eyesore, it is simply boarded up to prevent little prats with a penchant for lighting fires from getting inside it. And if you really consider it to be an eyesore, what a sad planet you must live on, Engineer1980, that you consider wiping out a piece of New Ferry's history without a second thought is in the name of progress.
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I must add though that I find it astonishing that the only time this building gets any kind of attention is when there are discussions or plans to remove it. By the way, New Ferry Regeneration Action Group has been discussing the pub for some time. Our members have considered trying to turn it into a heritage centre for the area, but realise that funding both to realise and sustain such a project is unlikely at this current time. At the recent public meetings in January organised by Ben Chapman to discuss the East Wirral Heritage and Nature Trail scheme along with the proposals to turn Bromborough Dock tip into a park and the work that the Royal Mersey Yacht Club wish to do at their end of the bay, the subject of the Great Eastern was also raised and how it might be incorporated into the grander scheme of improvements between Rock Ferry and Eastham Park.
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Whilst I agree that the building is a piece of New Ferry history, this building has been in a diar state for more than 18 months. The 'prats' you mention may not be able to enter the building to light fires, but it doesn't stop them from ripping the place to shreds, climbing on the roof, scrawling grafitti and being a general pain in the back side.
I am sorry I don't share the same empathy as you over the future of the building, I guess my opinion on this after 18 months of putting up with kids relentlessly causing trouble, swearing, shouting (and lighting fires actually..) is that anything will be better than the eyesore(and it is an eyesore)that it has become.
I resent the comment that I would wipe out a piece of New Ferry history without a second thought, that simply isn't true!
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Have got some terrible news. At 11.30am this morning, five removal vans parked outside the Great Eastern. The people in them ripped all the metal shutters off the windows and doors and stripped the place. All the tables and chairs were seen being taken out. They then left the scene, leaving the building wide open with all four doors smashed of their hinges.
When I came home from work at 5.30 there were a group of teenagers sitting on a wall opposite it, flicking lighters and waiting for darkness to descend.
I immediately rang Cllr Niblock to warn him. He contacted the Council's property department who sent out two guys who have now boarded up the smashed doors, not very well I hasten to add. They couldn't do the windows because there are so many of them. They have promised to come back at 8 in the morning to do the windows.
Wirral Community Patrol also turned up to guard the place whilst the carpenters went to cut the timber needed to board it up. Whilst I waited with the community officer, two loads of gangs of youths turned up - but scarpered when they saw us.
I am very concerned that the pub is in danger of being torched - imminently.
Cllr Niblock is furious and is going to demand that a full investigation is launched into how this could have been allowed to happen. The owners of the building are going to get the bill for the boarding up and a rocket from Steve via the planning department.
Also, interestingly, the planning application details have been removed from the Council website. Steve will also be asking some serious questions of the planning department as to why.
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That is outrageous! Surely the removal guys must know who booked them. To have 5 vans they must be a biggish company.
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There was different vans. Some plain White,Salford hire? And onther with a company on it.
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The Salford one should be traceable, you have to show all sorts of ID to hire those.
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tossers, trap the little bstrds, set up an electrocution trap that will teach em!
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The Great Eastern is being demolished - probably today (23rd June). Worksharp is living up to its name and getting the building destroyed before the Council's planning committee can do their site visit. To be honest, we expected something like this to happen.
I just wonder how smug those residents in Clipper View who wrote in letters in support of the proposals will be feeling when they find out that the new houses will be built too close to the backs of their homes. The Council's planning officer has recommended that the application to build the new houses is approved, even though they will be closer to the existing houses in Clipper View than national guidelines recommend. When that conifer hedge comes down in future years, their new neighbours in those swanky "affordable homes" are going to have a wonderful view of any bedroom activities. Whoops!!
Unfortunately, I will probably be in work when the deed is carried out. If anyone is passing as the building comes down, please try to take some pictures so we can record the event on our website and make those who allowed this to happen hang their heads in shame in the years to come when they finally appreciate what they have allowed to be lost.
Last edited by Trearan; 22nd Jun 2010 11:49pm.
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