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Beaty59 #745014 22nd Nov 2012 11:38am
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It's not on 1876 Town Map which does show the largish graveyard

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Beaty59 #745018 22nd Nov 2012 12:07pm
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There are some more pics from when we did a wikiwirral walk and a small explore Jackson street


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Could it be a mistake for IVY STREET? 'Streetmap' has Vyse Street in a slightly different spot to 'Google map'. It is shown a bit closer to Ivy Street on 'Streetmap'


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Came across on old print of the Priory when I was in York and couldn't resist buying it. It was called Birkhedde then. The outside was already in a state of decay. The print is from 1787. The place is fully identifiable from the print, that ruined part on the first photo, with the benches in it.
"Priory at Birkhedde Cheshire" is annotation on it.

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I don't know where some of this rubbish comes from. I've checked all of the maps going back to 1835 and all the early directories and found no trace of a Vyse Street ever existing in Birkenhead. Nor is it a modern name as no Vyse Street appears in the Council's current Land and Property Gazetteer. Yoller's postcode CH41 5JH covers nine properties in Priory Street, including the Priory itself. There is, however, a Vyse Street in Birmingham; perhaps the Vyse Street entry was written by the same dyslexic who recorded Chapel Lane Cemetery as being in Birkenhead instead of Burtonwood?

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I know Vyse Street in Birmingham quite well. It's the main street in the Jewellery Quarter. Along the same lines, some on-line maps have re-named Horatio Street, off Grange Rd. as Abratio Street.


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Marty99fred has hit the nail on the head. It sounds like someone uploading data has got Birkenhead and Birmingham confused. The trouble is, once these errors get on to the interweb, they tend to be self-replicating. Good job we're here to keep an eye on them.

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Originally Posted by BandyCoot
Came across on old print of the Priory when I was in York and couldn't resist buying it. It was called Birkhedde then. The outside was already in a state of decay. The print is from 1787. The place is fully identifiable from the print, that ruined part on the first photo, with the benches in it.
"Priory at Birkhedde Cheshire" is annotation on it.


Is this the one Bandy? Also a pic of 'Birkinhead Park' on the link, which someone may be interested in. Can't make out which way it's looking. Is it towards the Priory?
There is also a nice one of New Brighton and a lovely one of Hoyle-Lake.

http://www.antique-prints-maps.com/acatalog/Cheshire_antique_prints.html


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I'd say that the park view is from inside the park looking towards Conway Street.
I think the railings in the picture have nowadays just been painted or replaced with replicas

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A nice find by Granny, and in keeping with the alternative spellings as noted earlier in this post.

On the link that Derek gave to the listed buildings site, did anybody check out the 'OS Maps' tab? Heritage OS Map
If so, then the location that shows is the same as the area that Derek had circled in red, i.e., the pathway towards the Church.

Also, remember that map makers and publishers often introduce deliberate errors into their work, so that thay can demonstrate their copyright should they take illegal copying cases to court.

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I agree about the view, Derek. Surely the tall tower to the right of the Grand Entrance is the Hamilton Square station hydraulic tower, but on the site selling the print it says "circa 1860" , but the hydraulic tower wasn't built until the 1880's.
The railings would have been taken during the war, but they were all replaced with the original patterns during the restoration a few years ago.


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Could the tall tower be Holy Trinity Church in Price Street? The direction seems about right. (The picture is from the WikiWirral thread on Holy Trinity).

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I think you're right, yoller. My mistake.


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That's the Holy Trinity I remember. oldman

And Granny, that's the print I've got, I didn't have enough shekels to get the New Brighton one at the time. Cheers for that.

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Any guesses to what the domed building to the left of the entrance was?
A windmill?

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