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Originally Posted by bert1
I suspect he is the son of William Henry Ziegler, a Farmer in Landican.

Marriage,
ZIEGLER William H, HASTINGS Mary 1846 Liverpool, Register Office or Registrar Attended Liverpool



Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At
ZIEGLER Jane Smollett HASTINGS 1849 Woodchurch Wirral
Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1851
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At
ZIEGLER John Hastings HASTINGS 1851 Woodchurch Wirral
Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1853
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At
ZIEGLER Alexander Charles HASTINGS 1853 Woodchurch Wirral
Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1856
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At
ZIEGLER William Henry HASTINGS 1856 Woodchurch Wirral
Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1858
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At
ZIEGLER Mary HASTINGS 1858 Woodchurch Wirral
Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1861
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At
ZIEGLER George William HASTINGS 1861 Woodchurch Wirral


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Originally Posted by JemimaOxton
Also, quite a coincidence that both William and John married North Americans.

Both Cotton Merchants, no doubt both doing business in the states.


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That's brilliant, thank you! So Jane and William had William Junior and John Hastings in 1856 and 1851.

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Originally Posted by JemimaOxton
That's brilliant, thank you! So Jane and William had William Junior and John Hastings in 1856 and 1851.

No, William Henry, 1856 and John Hastings, 1851, had these parents,

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ZIEGLER William H, HASTINGS Mary 1846 Liverpool, Register Office or Registrar Attended Liverpool


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Here is a short tree,

John Ziegler married Jane Smollet, 1795
William henry Ziegler their son married Mary Hastings, 1846
All their children are above, post, 1085484


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The Shaftesbury Boys Club when it was the juniors entrance in Jackson st and the seniors entrance in Thomas st.
It is now split up, one part being the House of Pain and another part used to be the Atmosphere club.Building is still standing

new club built
Shaftesbury Youth Club
60 Mendip Road, Birkenhead
Possibly they may have pics of past presidents.
I do know they have a brass plaque with the names of past presidents
on it 0151 608 7165?

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Thank you so much for sending this. :-)

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Thank you, Derek - that's really interesting - I remember Atmosphere nightclub! I'll give them a ring and maybe head down there in the week. :-)

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Wonderful, thanks Bert!

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Got it, thank you Bert.

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