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granny #1079610 11th Sep 2020 8:57am
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Originally Posted by granny
It seems to me that as soon as Government make an announcement of changes, Scotland and Wales also follow with an announcement of changes, but different changes . Why do they need to ? Is it becuase their numbers are rising too, or is it a way of trying all possible solutions to eradiacte this virus to the best possible outcome.


I think its more to do with using the situation as a political football, undermining Boris where they can. Its no secret there's no love lost between him and Sturgeon.

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It seems to me that as soon as Government make an announcement of changes, Scotland and Wales also follow with an announcement of changes, but different changes . Why do they need to ? Is it becuase their numbers are rising too, or is it a way of trying all possible solutions to eradiacte this virus to the best possible outcome.


I think its more to do with using the situation as a political football, undermining Boris where they can. Its no secret there's no love lost between him and Sturgeon.


Agreed, no love lost but when it comes to Covid 19 I would have thought personal differences and dislikes would or should have been put to one side.


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Originally Posted by granny

Clearly the Government have done something 'unpopular' , as all things thay have done are 'unpopluar' with you, DD and Casper. Bless him ! seeyu


Doing something unpopular for the wrong reasons is not the same as doing something unpopular for the right reasons.

Even in the middle of all this mess he is ensuring that money is pumped upwards. I can't believe the amount of house building going on as I drive round, most of it on land that you or I would consider green belt or equally as badly on land where there should be jobs. What the heck is the point of building houses without building jobs?

The profit margins on these houses are incredible, cheapo Persimmons house make an average of over £60,000 PROFIT per house. Not only does the buyer give Persimmons over £60,000, the bank then rakes it in as well through the mortgage. Then we had zero homes built under the compulsory affordable homes policy. Where is the free-market when profit margins are that huge? Its just plain robbery and collusion.


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I have just been reading a few articles on how the new covid marshals will operate, patrolling shopping centres, giving advice in public places, railway stations, to ensure that social distancing is observed, masks are worn, monitor queues, make sure hand sanitiser bottles are full and to call police if there is any public disorder, as I pointed out an exercise in futility, they will probably cause more disorder when some people take exception to being asked to comply.

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Originally Posted by casper
I have just been reading a few articles on how the new covid marshals will operate, patrolling shopping centres, giving advice in public places, railway stations, to ensure that social distancing is observed, masks are worn, monitor queues, make sure hand sanitiser bottles are full and to call police if there is any public disorder, as I pointed out an exercise in futility, they will probably cause more disorder when some people take exception to being asked to comply.


No different to Community Policing or Litter Police . Only hope they aren't being paid on a target basis for convictions. It will probably be the same people, different badge.

Having seen News report from Liverpool last night, there needs to be something to help stop the idiots. There also needs to be something to stop the persistent culprits who deliberately flout the rules. As inone of my local shops. 2 only..... so 4 cram in. Wear masks, .. most don't. They get away with it, because management say they aren't bothered !!!


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Can anyone explain the difference between:-

Two groups of six people where everybody has to social distance from each other and members can change groups at any time.

AND

Twelve people social distancing from each other.


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The difference presumably lies in which one enables a speedier economic recovery. Because that has always been the priority.

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Originally Posted by granny
Originally Posted by casper
I have just been reading a few articles on how the new covid marshals will operate, patrolling shopping centres, giving advice in public places, railway stations, to ensure that social distancing is observed, masks are worn, monitor queues, make sure hand sanitiser bottles are full and to call police if there is any public disorder, as I pointed out an exercise in futility, they will probably cause more disorder when some people take exception to being asked to comply.


No different to Community Policing or Litter Police . Only hope they aren't being paid on a target basis for convictions. It will probably be the same people, different badge.

Having seen News report from Liverpool last night, there needs to be something to help stop the idiots. There also needs to be something to stop the persistent culprits who deliberately flout the rules. As inone of my local shops. 2 only..... so 4 cram in. Wear masks, .. most don't. They get away with it, because management say they aren't bothered !!!


Well the difference is that as far as I know covid marshals have no legal remit, they can't issue fines or warnings and can only advise, on the use of masks and distancing washing hands etc, otherwise they have to call the police, so no different than a shopkeeper really.

I am also fed up of people blatantly ignoring the rules, they actually seem to take some kind of delight from it, I posted in the old covid thread about a visit to the supermarket, this really annoyed me, got out of the car and started walking toward the store a young lady also doing the same,as she neared the store she stopped and looked in her bag and then closed it, me thinking she had forgotten her mask offered her one( I carry them in the car) well I called her a young lady, maybe that is debatable, the response was fook off and mind your own business, unbelievable how rude and aggressive the young seem to be, and for what reason?

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Originally Posted by casper


Well the difference is that as far as I know covid marshals have no legal remit, they can't issue fines or warnings and can only advise, on the use of masks and distancing washing hands etc, otherwise they have to call the police, so no different than a shopkeeper really.

I am also fed up of people blatantly ignoring the rules, they actually seem to take some kind of delight from it, I posted in the old covid thread about a visit to the supermarket, this really annoyed me, got out of the car and started walking toward the store a young lady also doing the same,as she neared the store she stopped and looked in her bag and then closed it, me thinking she had forgotten her mask offered her one( I carry them in the car) well I called her a young lady, maybe that is debatable, the response was fook off and mind your own business, unbelievable how rude and aggressive the young seem to be, and for what reason?


You can say that again.. Maybe they ALL take character enhanacers, most do these days it's stamped all over them , like a trademark. ! They can't see it but others can. They didn't listen to those warnings either.

Beggers belief when people are still referring to this virus as a conspiracy.


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Despite being an "area of concern", there were no Covid test appointments available in Merseyside today, the nearest was 250 miles away.

There has been an ongoing problem with the supply of test kits for some time now, many test centres have not been able to take any appointments.

So the ramp up to the promised 10 million tests a day isn't off to a good start, not that the figure is anything other than a pipe dream.


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Is that because the two NEW test centres are over run with people who just queueing rather than making an appointment.

They can queue , as they are WALK IN TEST CENTRES.. therefore, to make an appointment could well take you 250 miles away. Why don;t they go to the WALK IN CENTRES ?


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Appointment only at six Wirral test centres. I’ll let you count the rest of the appointment only centres in Merseyside an Cheshire. None of which were available.

I’m not aware of any unrestricted walk in test centres that are open.to the general public “Drive through” doesn’t mean you don’t need an appointment.


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Calling them walk in centres is totally wrong and misleading. Anyone who turns up without an appointment will be turned away.

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What does this mean then ?

https://www.wirralglobe.co.uk/news/18705749.second-local-covid-test-site-opening-bromborough/

Users will be asked to self-swab when attending. LTS appointments can be booked at www.nhs.uk/coronavirus or by calling 119. Alternatively, you can attend without an appointment.


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