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Just hoping that the bad guys stop with their silliness as it makes the world almost unbearable at times.

Is the BBC fear mongering or telling it like it is. I am confused (and scared).

With clowns in charge we should be scared, a week ago UK government promised they had ordered 3.5 million home testing kits - they haven't ordered them yet, they haven't even decided which one to order or whether they want to test for the disease or test for immunity or both.

China has tamed its progression by sticking guns in people's faces - but its not over, the disease is still around and there are a lot of people not immune to it, it could escalate very fast.

I suspect over the next few days the death rate in America will start the big climb (two weeks after the cases started escalating), the scale of that will soon be unprecedented. I believe that will trigger a complete re-think to many countries.

UK promised a new measuring system to include deaths outside hospital and to state recoveries, this hasn't gone mainstream yet. In the mean time we have a false sense of security with overstated current infections and understated deaths - these give a conveniently low index for the Government to feel smug about - but its not reality.

Claims that many in the UK were infected early without symptoms is guesswork/propaganda. While this can be demonstrated by manipulation of the infection rates, the death rates don't tally with that theory unless the UK strain of CV has a strange behaviour compared to the earlier strains elsewhere but later data seems to say otherwise. The commonest strain in the UK might have originated as a mutation in the UK from the sketchy information we have to date.

I have no idea what Canada's progression has been like nor what actions they are taking. As they were relatively late to the game lets hope they have had time to learn lessons from others, especially their southern neighbours.

They have already ordered 3.5 million testing kits and will be rolled out once the efficiency has been assured. Public Health England have said they will test some kits in the laboratories. So nothing happens overnight, and not much point in having testing kits if they aren't efficient.
So from the time of ordering (25 th March) to despatch, to delivery, to testing... maybe these people should be working 24 hrs a day instead of 18 hrs a day ?? Would that make people happier or would it be criticized because they are working too hard ? Looks like a no win situation !

Can't understand why the Government would want to feel smug. I would have thought the greater the numbers released, the more fear put into the people to keep them at home.

Canada is making moves for medical supplies probably at around the same time as UK Government did with regard to numbers of cases and ordering necessary kits, so to constantly berate a situation of which is constantly under high pressure at the moment, is in my opinion unfair considering so many companies have turned their production into making equipment. The whole world needs these supplies, worst hit countries I assume would be at the top of the list, and maybe UK aren't first in the queue !

From the news yesterday, Trump has said he's not going to supply Canada with medical exports. I'm sure Snowshoes knows about this.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-52161402/trudeau-mistake-to-block-us-medical-exports-to-canada?intlink_from_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fworld%2Fus_and_canada&link_location=live-reporting-map

Noted that Labour leader still can't get off his 'activist' platform. NOTHING would ever please that grumpy old fart, but I will say that Yvette Cooper spoke well the other night.

The story and excuses changed day by day indicating they are/were covering up.

Is it one supplier or multiple suppliers? That changes.

Are the ones that arrived contaminated or where ones delivered to other countries contaminated? That changed.

Are they virus test kits or immunity test kits? That changed.

A lot of things changed AFTER they claimed to have PURCHASED! (they used the word "purchased" not "ordered")

Did they really purchase BEFORE they were known to be effective? That wouldn't make sense.

Why were the different UK manufactures not used as the suppliers, they are exporting to other countries. That doesn't make sense.

Other countries have been using test kits extensively for weeks, have these not already been peer tested?



The Labour Leader is younger than you or I, how can the Leader of the Opposition not take an "activist" role, they are not in power?

The UK Government buried its head in the sand for weeks, South Korea despite having less time didn't. Look at the difference in outcomes.

Apparently it was Pubic Health England who instructed the Government.

You ask a lot of questions there DD. so I assume you don't have the answers and none of us do , we can only surmise.

Watching al Jazeera earlier, Spain made an order for medical equipment from China. China dropped it off for transfer in Ankara. Turkey won't release it as they want to hold onto it in case they need the supplies.
US won't lift sanctions on Iran and Syria, so that they can access the European banks to get much needed funding for supplies.
With all this confusion, this pandemic will not be cleared for at least another 6 months or much longer. The world should be working together, Russia has flown supplies into Europe, China has flown supplies into other countries, Germany and US want to hold on to theirs , Spain can't get theirs, our are lost in the pipeline ... how many more ? Africa hasn't even been given a wink or a nod yet !

Yes, Trump has told 3m not to ship medical supplies to Canada, It's becoming quite
an issue here. Mainly N95 masks. Some of the material in those masks are produced here in Canada. Trudeau said this AM that millions of them are to arrive in the next few days
from China.
Donny better be careful. 2000 nurses who live in Windsor Ont. travel over the border
every day to work in hospitals in Detroit Mich.

Trudeau is probably one of the most decent leaders in the world today, I do hope his hand is not forced into playing the same game as Trump but Donald might reap what he sows.

must be an awful lot of doctors, nurses, registrars ,clerks all around the country involved in the conspiracy theory of fiddling the numbers of deaths.

How? They might know the rough numbers for their own hospital, they would not know the numbers for all the hospitals that are added together.

If I told you there are 23000 packets of toilet rolls on shop shelves at the moment. You couldn’t say if that is true or false by looking in your local supermarkets.

Dear me, how can a Government continue to support Al Qaeda affiliates that are based all over Idlib and infiltrated with terrorists ISIS and Muslim Brotherhood . DO they support the killing and persecuting Christians in the Christian villages , the burning of churches , forcing the villagers to run, same ones as those who try to make their way across the Greek border to Europe. Are they happy with supporting such things ? Probably, as BBC are about to be all inclusive and have Islamic Prayers of the local radio stations every morning . We can bend so far back almost horizontally for some , to make a statement, but always forget those who truly suffer.

Yesterday :

Britain offers $100 million more to al-Q'da dominated Idleb Province, 'to help with Coronavirus threat', but nothing to the rest of Syria where Covid19 has arrived and tens of millions of innocents are suffering the consequences of international sanctions... This partial 'assistance' and failure to lift sanctions will only prolong the suffering of millions and hinder efforts to progress peace... sadly it gets harder to believe that that is not the deliberate intention.

Today:

probably through the beloved 'White Helmets' who are embedded exclusively with al-Q'da linked groups and who have nothing to do with the vast majority of Syrians and no connection with Syrian welfare agencies or bodies.
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Maybe you can respond to the author and let him know, he is on the wrong side of history. That Britain is supporting radical ISIS atrocities against Syrian civilians.
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I and others have regularly informed the British government of these facts, of which the British government and foreign office are well aware. That information is ignored.
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I have emailed some UK Parliamentarians about this, and a formal question to Parliament on the matter is being considered.

Oh, and I've seen a ' selfie ' this am of a group of nursing staff in a Liverpool hospital with the full protective coverings, giving the thumbs up sign.

Arrowe Park Hospital got a massive delivery of face masks yesterday.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274

As of last night, Wirral has 147 confirmed cases out of a population of over 323,000. That's approx 0.046% of our population.

The majority of those will survive. Realistically, you have more chance of catching flu or a cold.

Cases are still increasing though. It hasn't peaked yet. Stay safe but don't worry too much.

While that is partially true, it is highly misleading, we do NOT record the number of coronavirus cases in the UK, if you have coronavirus you do not report it, the guidelines clearly say not to phone 111 nor your doctor unless your symptoms are so severe your life is in danger. Basically we have only been reporting the number of hospitalised cases so far.

In reality 50% of the Wirral might have or have had coronavirus but do you want to be responsible for it infecting a high risk person, or a whole nursing home?

CV is roughly three times more infectious than flu, that is why it has spread so fast. Coronavirus has already killed three times more people in the UK than flu did last winter and we have a long way to go yet.