If anyone gets it, would they be willing to post on here how they are affected, what they feel like, progression etc. Also how they think they caught it. I think it would help us understand better what to do and best things to do to avoid if possible. Seeing all this panic about hand gel, why not just try a spot of bleach to wash hands with?
In My Humble Opinion .....If you get it, its important to try and keep your lungs free of debris and fluids, although they tell you to rest, I would try and do the opposite and ventilate the lungs as much as possible. Most people that die have died of pneumonia although CV19 in the worst cases would kill you eventually through organ damage. I would also take anti-inflammatories to attempt to reduce the amount of fluid the body pumps into the lungs. If you get to the pneumonia stage you need antibiotics. .... IMHO
Well that's been shot down by France, they say Ibuprofen aggravates the disease and to use paracetamol.
I see both the NHS and America were suggesting Ibuprofen, it will be interesting to find out why it reacts with CV19.
Try to get some paracetamol ! Sold out everywhere. Pasta is another. Why would anyone want to stockpile pasta ? It's all ludicrous behaviour.
I have my doubts that it originated in the meat market as I read an article the other day (whether we can believe such journalism is also questionable ) with US blaming China and China blaming US. China says it is an American disease that might have been introduced by members of the United States Army who visited Wuhan in October. Well, if that is the case, it throws their original theory that it originated in Wuhan wet meat market, out the window . To actually see the spread of such magnitude in such a short period of time, really does present more questions than answers in my opinion. If it's about to get so much worse, I wonder what the contingency plans are for the Army and Navy personnel , the cemeteries and to tell people over 70 to self isolate for up to 4 months is even more crazy. Order online ! Great idea if the 70 plus have computers, and the supermarkets have the available staff to make the deliveries. If that does happen I hope the general public will pull together and help the little old lady down the road who has no one and is too frightened to ask. I also hope that the little old lady isn't ripped off by some con man/woman.
Is this a world wide prep for a nuclear attack ? It makes you bloody wonder !
A letter from a lady in Yemen posted in the last few days, it sort of makes a point :
Message from Sara Ameri ,Yemen: “The citizens of the first world are in panic: they are experiencing something ordinary for us. Can’t you travel? We haven’t travelled either, for five years. You can’t leave the house? It’s raining bombs on us. Do they stockpile goods in supermarkets? In our war zone, production is paralyzed, imports are very low. Is a terrible virus spreading? We experienced the same with cholera. Are you worried about the children? Welcome to our everyday world. Do you feel cut off as a nation? We have been cut off from 90% of the countries. Losing jobs? So many of us haven’t received a salary in five years. Schools closed? It’s been happening for years. Health system in crisis? That happens with us, no matter what kind of disease you get. Don’t worry, it’s tough at first. Then you get used to it.â€
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
Did you see the post on here the other day someone advertising home delivery packs, masks, gloves wipes pasta toilet roll etc £100, unbelievable, as to the lady from Yemen, we too have been bombed and starved, cut off as a nation it happened a long time ago but none the less it happened, so yes we do know.
Did you see the post on here the other day someone advertising home delivery packs, masks, gloves wipes pasta toilet roll etc £100, unbelievable, as to the lady from Yemen, we too have been bombed and starved, cut off as a nation it happened a long time ago but none the less it happened, so yes we do know.
I don't think she is appealing to the over 80's Casper. Unfortunately , I doubt her children know either. If they did, of course they would think it is just the norm. We all have to experience to understand , apparently .
Yes, I saw the post of that guy advertising.. there's always someone ready to make a killing .
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
Think when this self isolation comes in for over 70s this forum and others are going to become very important and think we’ll all have to try and keep it interesting and alive to give folk abit of a distraction from the horrible situation facing us . So let’s try and get it how it was , entertaining and funny some seriousness but we all in it together eh....
I am still a young whipper snapper......looks like i will be running the errands! What is meant by isolation ?. If i walk out house , jump in car, drive out to a remote river, fish all day and then drive straight home ?
They say police will be used , so watch out for grasses Fish who’ll dob you in to the iso squad. You’ve seen how it’s done in China man handled into a closed truck , yikes!!!
Think when this self isolation comes in for over 70s this forum and others are going to become very important and think we’ll all have to try and keep it interesting and alive to give folk abit of a distraction from the horrible situation facing us . So let’s try and get it how it was , entertaining and funny some seriousness but we all in it together eh....
Good call cools,as long as we don't get worried when a screen goes blank, like the ten little Indians.
They say police will be used , so watch out for grasses Fish who’ll dob you in to the iso squad. You’ve seen how it’s done in China man handled into a closed truck , yikes!!!
just watched a police drone in Japan or china chase an old lady back to her house.. Pensioners will be dressing up in black and be out creeping in the shadows just to avoid cabin fever.
Just wondering in the next few weeks or more if you've got a car would you be able to drive somewhere but not leave your car or mingle with anyone. Unfortunately I'm the only one with a car because there were a few things I was thinking of Ask my daughter if possible to do some shopping if needed and put into bags so I could collect from either her house (left on doorstep for collection) or car park of the shop.
Derek, I would. You wouldn't even have to get out of the car, she could pop them in the boot. Just make sure you wear gloves in case bags carry this virus. (I'm not sure about that ) and sing Happy Birthday twice when you get home and then wipe your steering wheel .
We don't even know how long this virus lives on things do we ?
I doubt you will be arrested .
I think if you get the virus , that will be different, but plenty of options are beginning to be put forward if that time should arise for someone.
Can anyone else can give Derek more info ?
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
This would have all been kicked in the butt, if governments took more action back in November last year, as soon as you started bringing people home, you started spreading the virus! But the great unwashed people of the UK get what they deserve, i feel sorry for the older folk as they are the ones who will pay for it!
So the virus is persistent for a long period of time, yet the government have not given any information on this, this type of information would make people realise the need for hand washing and disinfecting surfaces, we have watched the Chinese spraying ceiling to floor for months so they have known about its persistence to remain on surfaces, yet here we have Boris with his caught smoking in the toilets face on reiterating the same thing, give us the information that will help us understand the virus better.
Washing your hands makes no difference if you touch your clothes. It’s just a petty exercise to keep the masses happy.
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