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Re: Election 2019 [Re: cools] #1073174
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Originally Posted by cools
And just on the optimistic note Granny, just heard that the pound and shares have surged due to the uncertainty of Brexit bing sorted.



They did. Sorry Cools, I thought you were Casper and I was jesting with him.. (as you probably see). Pound soared against the dollar and the Euro.
So maybe all the pessimists that issued black forecasts after the referendum, are about to see their arse again, by being proven wrong. (again)

Again Sorry.. apologies. ( and a few to Casper too)

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Re: Election 2019 [Re: granny] #1073175
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Originally Posted by granny
When the Shadow Home Secretary goes out in odd shoes, not only odd but two left feet, then things are getting a bit concerning to say the least. Do they really know what they were promoting ? crazy


Yep, really important because I believe the Home secretary also governs the Ministry of Silly Walks.


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Ha no problem Granny I thought that...

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Originally Posted by granny
Originally Posted by cools
And just on the optimistic note Granny, just heard that the pound and shares have surged due to the uncertainty of Brexit bing sorted.



They did. Sorry Cools, I thought you were Casper and I was jesting with him.. (as you probably see). Pound soared against the dollar and the Euro.
So maybe all the pessimists that issued black forecasts after the referendum, are about to see their arse again, by being proven wrong. (again)

Again Sorry.. apologies. ( and a few to Casper too)



Don't open the champers yet, its early days, I predict that in two years time when the cock crows the Tory voters will deny their messiah, I really hope I'am not right because the next burden will fall on our kids and grandchildren again, And granny I would really hate to say I told you so. yes

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A staggering 88% of Tory adverts on Facebook during the first four days of December included ­inaccurate claims, said disinformation tracking organisation First Draft.

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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
Originally Posted by granny
When the Shadow Home Secretary goes out in odd shoes, not only odd but two left feet, then things are getting a bit concerning to say the least. Do they really know what they were promoting ? crazy


Yep, really important because I believe the Home secretary also governs the Ministry of Silly Walks.



Joking aside, I really do think she has got some health issues . The lady with her looks like a carer, (don't know why, but just does) Maybe she's suffering with some sort of dementia and if so, that's very sad. I wouldn't wish that or similar on anyone.


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Originally Posted by Salmon
A staggering 88% of Tory adverts on Facebook during the first four days of December included ­inaccurate claims, said disinformation tracking organisation First Draft.


Which percentage of people and age groups would have seen those , Salmon ? Students were mostly aligned to Corbyn having been brainwashed in the Universities.

Last night there were big demonstrations in London and Glasgow by the Socialist Workers Party. Notified on Facebook and more police expense .

Socialist Workers Party. (Corbyn's back up )

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Workers_Party_(UK)

The SWP describes itself as a 'revolutionary socialist party' and considers itself to stand in the 'tradition' of Leon Trotsky. It also shares many of the political positions of other Trotskyist groups, a tradition rooted in Marxism and Leninism (see for example Tony Cliff, Marxism at the Millennium.[117]) In common with other Trotskyists the SWP defends the body of ideas codified by the first four Congresses of the Communist International and the founding Congress of the Fourth International of Leon Trotsky in 1938.


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Originally Posted by granny
Originally Posted by Salmon
A staggering 88% of Tory adverts on Facebook during the first four days of December included ­inaccurate claims, said disinformation tracking organisation First Draft.


Which percentage of people and age groups would have seen those , Salmon ? Students were mostly aligned to Corbyn having been brainwashed in the Universities.

Last night there were big demonstrations in London and Glasgow by the Socialist Workers Party. Notified on Facebook and more police expense .

Socialist Workers Party. (Corbyn's back up )

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Workers_Party_(UK)

The SWP describes itself as a 'revolutionary socialist party' and considers itself to stand in the 'tradition' of Leon Trotsky. It also shares many of the political positions of other Trotskyist groups, a tradition rooted in Marxism and Leninism (see for example Tony Cliff, Marxism at the Millennium.[117]) In common with other Trotskyists the SWP defends the body of ideas codified by the first four Congresses of the Communist International and the founding Congress of the Fourth International of Leon Trotsky in 1938.


This is what happens when we stick labels on things, FBI investigates cinema release its a Wonderful Life, stating the story has been inspired by Communist undertones and propaganda implying that Capitalism represents greed at the expense of others, a happy Christmas there then. omg

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Originally Posted by granny
Originally Posted by Salmon
A staggering 88% of Tory adverts on Facebook during the first four days of December included ­inaccurate claims, said disinformation tracking organisation First Draft.


Which percentage of people and age groups would have seen those , Salmon ? Students were mostly aligned to Corbyn having been brainwashed in the Universities.


First draft is a big international organisation, the facebook adverts were by the Conservative party, not individuals. No idea what you are trying to insinuate.

Originally Posted by granny
Last night there were big demonstrations in London and Glasgow by the Socialist Workers Party. Notified on Facebook and more police expense .


They were Antifa demonstrations not SWP.

Originally Posted by granny


Socialist Workers Party. (Corbyn's back up )

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Workers_Party_(UK)

The SWP describes itself as a 'revolutionary socialist party' and considers itself to stand in the 'tradition' of Leon Trotsky. It also shares many of
the political positions of other Trotskyist groups, a tradition rooted in Marxism and Leninism (see for example Tony Cliff, Marxism at the Millennium.[117]) In common with other Trotskyists the SWP defends the body of ideas codified by the first four Congresses of the Communist International and the founding Congress of the Fourth International of Leon Trotsky in 1938.


Corbyn isn't and never has been affiliated or associated with the SWP.

What is wrong with the existence of the SWP? They are purely a political viewpoint. Their primary protests are anti-racism and anti-war. I hope you don't believe the SWP should be censured? Unlike the far-right groups and parties they do not do nor promote anything illegal. I guess if you are a member of the Ku Klux Klan you might object to the SWP.


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Considering Antifa began as an American left-wing, autonomous, militant anti-fascist groups , they're not far removed from SWP. As it happens, the protesters were carrying SWP posters. So tell me, were they Antifa, or SWP ? What you are insinuating is that the Tories are fascist ! Well, must be just about the whole of the country at the moment in that case !

I'm not insinuating anything, just saying facts. University students have always been brainwashed towards far left, Marxism and all the attached criteria since my sister was there in the 1960's. . Communist supporters standing on orange boxes at the pier head, girls taking time out of school at Blackburn House to go and listen to the projected political persuations . Same influences during my son and daughters time at University.

Everyone can march and protest, don't put words in my mouth about censorship but why go and take their protests to No 10, what on earth were they protesting about and what would they expect to happen ? Anti-racism and anti-war.... ? Racism is everywhere apparently, and where's the war ? Why Glasgow.. are Scotland embarking on racism and -war ? If it's -racism they were worried about, they should have been outside Corbyns house.

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I spent more than four years in universities, I can't remember any political influencing or discussion whatsoever apart from a few seconds about staff strikes.

It was primarily an Antifa demonstration, there will have been SWP, LD, Labour and Conservative party members there. Antifa is a group not a political party.

Antifa UK is nothing to do with Antifa USA or Antifa Germany, if anything it was a partial resurrection of AFA which you will pleased to know Corbyn was involved in, the AFA's primary function was to discredit the BNP and NF.

There is plenty of evidence of fascism in the Conservative party.

I would like to see any evidence of racism from Corbyn, I can supply some for Boris if you want.


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Well, my daughter was influenced during her university years. She is an avid staunch supporter of Corbyn. That's fine, if that's what she believes in, however she is now forwarding me posts that are being posted on pro labour sites that are accusing the Tories of being Natzi's.

So who is responsible for that ? If it's not Labour party members or affiliated groups, then it's got to be others poisoning minds into extremism.


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There were mock elections at a number of schools, here are some Wirral results.

Co-op Academy Bebington
Labour - 274 - 78%
Brexit - 23 - 6.55%
Green - 21 - 5.98%
Conservative - 17 - 4.84%
Liberal Democrats - 16 - 4.56%

St Anselm's College
Labour: 330 (57.3%)
Green: 89 (15.5%)
Conservative: 70 (11.9%)
Brexit: 53 (9.2%)
Lib Dem: 21 (3.6%)

Ridgeway High School
Green - 13%
Birkenhead Social Justice - 8%
Liberal Democrat - 7%
Brexit Party - 2%
Conservative - 4%
Labour - 63%


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We should judge our economy by the absence of poverty, not the number of billionaires - Jeremy Corbyn
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Originally Posted by granny
[quote=Salmon]A staggering 88% of Tory adverts on Facebook during the first four days of December included ­inaccurate claims, said disinformation tracking organisation First Draft.


Which percentage of people and age groups would have seen those , Salmon ? Students were mostly aligned to Corbyn having been brainwashed in the Universities.



Surely the point is not so much who would have seen the posts but the very fact that they were lies put about by the Tories. Granny,as you say students were mostly aligned to Corbyn (if even true) then they would not have been influenced by the lies whereas non students would almost certainly have been.

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Some dirty and sneaky tricks went on. ....

Tories outside voting stations telling people they couldn't vote without ID.

Lib Dems posting leaflets through doors saying the Labour candidate had withdrawn.

Total lies about the record turnouts, telling people there were massive queues when the turnout was actually less than the 2017 elections.

On the Wirral

Police had to be called against conservatives intimidating Labour's Wirral West Campaign Shop, despite moving on at least one returned to the vicinity. It was reported that Laura Evans (the Conservative Candidate) and Conservative Councillor Tony Cox were part of this group.

Numerous (at least five) Labour Placards were vandalised, in one case the whole wall and fence was knocked over.


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