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Does seem a bit soon families still grieving. Free tickets for those at first concert.

Its media driven but then what else do they know

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Yes , it is far too soon. People haven't had funerals yet. But hey. always down to the selfish wanting to have their name printed in the book of memories and tributes.
To be honest, I've heard enough about Manchester and how bloody marvellous everyone has been this week, and the media have used it to their advantage too. Yes they been marvellous, but why go on and on and on about it. The rest have NOT suffered like all those involved. We need a bit of breathing space for the families ,the rescuers, the medical teams. They must all be suffering beyond belief . why make a party out of something so horrendous ?


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£7BN a year to police drugs in this country , more than the social security budget.

Do any of you remember the days when, everyone thought it would be something that would go away of it's own accord. Next came the crack down, next came the can't keep on top of the situation , now it's almost on the cards to make it legal.

There are huge similarities to terrorism in this country.
They thought it would go away, they didn't think it would arrive on our shores, they didn't put any preventative measure is place. Then they got worried, but for pc. reasons, couldn't say anything racist or react against religious institutions.
Then they realised, and decided 'prevent' was the answer, inclusion was the answer , educate and give them jobs is the answer.
Well, sorry but no one has the answer, even now. I hope just like the drugs scene, the terrorism is not too late for a positive outcome.

Can't help agreeing with UKIP, (as much as I can't stand the man)..... ban the burka as a start ! (it won't happen though, as politicians are still too frightened to put their name on the line, and Corbyn is about to fling the doors wide open again given half the chance)
One could actually believe there is a plot afoot in this country to destroy everything and then become the island prison service of Europe.

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Here here Granny, quite agree...personally i think Drugs should be given out to drug users at clinics and a suchlike, still hammer home the message but these people will get them one way or the other, usually robbing and mugging old folk. I hate the way these drug barons make their money. I know people are against such a move but as vyou say it's not working now. Yep I don't want to see people walking around in our country hidden behind robes and just eyes staring out, quite unnerves me.vThey remind me of The Dementors from the Harry Potter books and films.

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Yes drugs should be given out free, but only in overdose's.

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Most violence caused by drugs is because they are off-their-head not because they are after money.

Alcohol is a drug much the same as many others ie addictive, unpredictable and destructive.

Would you really give alcoholics free alcohol to feed their addiction? Why think differently about other drugs?


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But they need money in fist place DD to buy the stuff off the dealer's, and they don't care how they get it!

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Isn't there extra money given to alcoholics when on benefits because of their addiction??

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But would you give free alcohol to an alcoholic?


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Well it seems to me its already being given free, by extra payment to buy it...

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You're doing a Theresa May on me, would YOU give free alcohol to alcoholics?

There is a very easy way to reduce the drugs problem to an insignificant level but there are too many people with a conflict of interest. Just confiscate it all, shut down as many dealers and supply routes as you can, targeting street level. It will very quickly (in days) out price it's availability to most of the anti-social users.

Unfortunately the police won't do this because it will lead to a 60% reduction in the number of police we need.


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Ooh Teresea May constantly on your mind DD, are you trying to emulate your hero JC?? I as a single person cannot put in place anything that would help the drugs or for that matter alco holic problems, but I can pass an opinion and if I felt threatened or troubled by an alcoholic and drink was nearby , yes let them have it. In truth I don't know what the answer is to these problems but it just doesn't seem to be working at the moment and the drugs and drug gangs just seem to be getting bigger and more violent.

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Theresa May is certainly on my mind, keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

Cameron and May have possibly driven this country up a irreversible financial dead-end. I didn't fully realise the extent of it until running some figures last night.

Giving drugs to druggies solves absolutely nothing, the amount of violence will increase not decrease. A lot of druggies when they are not completely off their skulls keep their heads down because they want to be able to get their next fix, if they know they can get their next fix regardless, it changes the whole pattern of self-control.

The majority of methadone that is handed out is not used to help people to get off other drugs, its used as a stop-gap before they can get their next fix of the real stuff. It is helping them maintain continuity of drug use. Yes, in a small number of cases some druggies use it instead of other drugs most of the use is not that.

Just get the price of drugs out of reach and the whole problem of drugs and associated crime will be resolved. Stuff trying to get "Mr Big", hit it at street level, Mr Big will soon be out of business, he can't instantly rebuild trustworthy reliable supply chains overnight.

Its not difficult to find the street level dealers, ask any cabby, follow any smack-head, track mobiles and payphone use.




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DD I don't know how you think taking a street level dealer of the streets would solve anything, they would be replaced in hours. The only real way to stop it would be to stop it getting into the country in the first place and how that could be done I don't know. I would think there are too many corrupt people in high places that could be being bought for turning a blind eye or passing information to the big drug barons.

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