So Russia Turkey,Iran now have an alliance !! Think we have just witnessed a historical and huge two fingers up at the West . Worrying times. Wish all it meant was that we and America could just keep our necks wound in and mind our own business.

Haven't seen that news Venice, but I did finish watching the documentary that Palemoon posted about Hyper-normalisation .

Nothing will be as it appears ever again, neither will I worry ever again, it would seem that everything is a heap of manipulation and lies and men of dispute knocking on doors with no answers.

Sorry Venice. I ousted your post with the Northern Lights last night. (wrong thread) Back on track now..