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granny #998669 20th Jan 2016 5:06pm
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There is nothing in law that covers overtime other than it must meet minimum wage requirements, everything else is at managements discretion in the employment contract (for those lucky enough to get a proper contract). There are some companies that pay overtime at less than the day-rate.

The UK retained the right to opt-out of some parts of the working time regulations (unlike other European countries), yet another indication that UK workers can be treated more like slaves.

Too many people that became union officials saw it as a career enhancement, if they helped the management screw the workforce they believed this would do their promotion prospects some good. Fortunately most management saw these people as untrustworthy so while the management gained, the union officials didn't get their anticipated promotion, a small bit of retribution.

I'm watching with interest how the oil "dollar" pans out, a number of countries are colluding in using other currencies for oil - including the Euro (or even potentially the Deutsche Mark!). America won't be happy!!!


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There is a debate on ITV this evening at 10.45pm
Should the Northwest vote yes we want out .....or no we stay.

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Morning granny, I had a quick read through the reject the EU link, very interesting reading, I found it to be a bit fanciful and misleading, the following paragraph from it is fact:

Official documents from the US Congress and the Nuremberg war crimes tribunals unequivocally show that WWII was not only prepared, but also logistically and technically facilitated by the largest and most notorious oil and drug cartel at that time, namely, the German IG Farben cartel, composed of Bayer,BASF,Hoechst and other chemical companies.
The summary of the indictment from Nuremburg proves that without IG Farben, WWII could not have taken place.

The thread intrigued me to have a quick look into some of the claims made in the book, so I looked up the official documents made by the Americans at Nuremburg, I came to the conclusion that his book is very cleverly woven around factual documents from the trial even down to some documents being lost or hidden to be used in a third world war.

Anyway thanks for the thread granny it was an interesting read, and I have decided to dig a bit deeper and have a proper read up on the facts.

ps, I still love you even though you shouted at me smile

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Looks like Cameron has come back with nothing of note.

A temporary hold on in-work benefits which means they are encouraged to stay out of work and claim other benefits.

An insignificant change to child benefit rules for children abroad.

Nothing significant on Euro.

And a bunch of meaningless words on closer union.


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Don't forget the promise of keeping our own currency. smile

It will all start to come out and be dissected, but not for one moment can I imagine that Europe have given us what looks to be 'cart blanche' agreement on most of the issues in question. It's just not them.

Therefore, I'm quite sure more will come forth and there will be clauses that can change things at a given time if needs be. Bet your bottom dollar on that.


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What worries me is what he has agreed to give away, that information won't be declared.

Absolutely no substance to dissect on what he has agreed, its a load of flannel.


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What is the EU and how does it work ?

This is worth looking at as many of us are not even knowledgeable of this information.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zgjwtyc


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I still think we would be better out...

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Originally Posted by cools
I still think we would be better out...
totally agree cools.David Cameron looked stressed out yesterday.wonder if he will get anywhere with his speeches

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Yes Snowy he did look stressed but got to give him credit he has worked hard to get any concessions but I don't think staying in will do us much good.

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How the EU began:

The European Union grew out of a desire for peace in a war-torn and divided continent. Five years after World War II ended, France and Germany came up with a plan to ensure their two countries would never go to war against each other again. The result was a deal signed by six nations to pool their coal and steel resources in 1950.


Interesting about the coal and steel. The benefits, tax and everything else will eventually be 'pooled' in my opinion.
No wonder the miners were not heard ! Once we joined in 1973, we were part of the same. Wheels within wheels that were kept quiet.


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Originally Posted by cools
Yes Snowy he did look stressed but got to give him credit he has worked hard to get any concessions but I don't think staying in will do us much good.
Did you see Angela Merkel?She looked on edge lol.

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Well I think the EU need us more than we need them, think they were all worried and still are we will pull out. These benefits make me mad allowing family allowance etc to send home to all these Eastern Europeans who rubbing their hands with glee. Let's face it what would we get in benefits if we want to these countries?

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We need to also remember that Mrs Merkel will be voted out at some point in the near future. All things would change again. It's a structured path to EU domination for all members. This picture makes me laugh. As if she was on the side of the Greeks when they had their troubles and this pic taken this week would look as if she is snuggling up to the Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras . After all she put them through. Now whispering behind someone else's back.




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Some people are worrying about whether we will be able to enter the Eurovision song contest. Pretty much puts us on a par with US and them voting for Donald Trump. smack


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