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Originally Posted by granny
Councillors are not Politicians.


Local government politicians.


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Ye, you are correct, but they don't have to be a member of any political party. I got mixed up.

We could still do without a number of them.

The old habit of taking redundancy or EVR and then applying for another job within the council has long been a bone of contention with myself. It does stink but I believe that over the years, it has happened more times than we could imagine!

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Its the Council Officers who are supposed to be apolitical.

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The old habit of taking redundancy or EVR and then applying for another job within the council has long been a bone of contention with myself. It does stink but I believe that over the years, it has happened more times than we could imagine!


The Civil Service has a small degree of protection from this being abused under some very old rules, however the whole issue is being reviewed for all public service employees HERE

In reality its not as much as a swindle as it may appear, if you work for 20 years, get your 20 year redundancy, then get re-employed for another 10 years and get a 10 year redundancy, it is not that much different from working 30 years and getting a 30 year redundancy.

In fact there is some good to come out of it as it can enable someone to get a lesser or part-time job in later life.


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think if you check rules, the max number of years is 20. so that blows away the idea of 20 and then 10 for different employer is the same as 30 for the one employer


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Originally Posted by jimbob
think if you check rules, the max number of years is 20. so that blows away the idea of 20 and then 10 for different employer is the same as 30 for the one employer


Employers make their own rules for redundancy, there is no legal limit on the number of qualifying years.

I just used random figures to demonstrate the principal, use 7 years and 5 years = 12 years if the previous example disturbs you.

The subject we were talking about was returning to the same employer after taking redundancy.


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[quote=diggingdeeper]Its the Council Officers who are supposed to be apolitical.



Do I need to belong to a political party to become a councillor?

The majority of people who become councillors do so as a representative of a political party. However, many people stand as independents and candidates on single issues.

What about pensions for those that are reinstated with the council ? Do they have a second pension or is the first one counted as 'broken service'.


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Length of service is capped at 20 years and weekly pay is capped at £475. The maximum amount of statutory redundancy pay is £14,250. You can give your staff extra redundancy pay if you want to, or have a qualifying period of less than 2 years.7 Oct 2015



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Of course you can be independent, we have had a number of independent councillors in the past but of course you will be self-funding as well, it doesn't come cheap for a successful campaign.

I believe all politicians should be independent and don't see any significant advantages of the party system.


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Originally Posted by jimbob

Length of service is capped at 20 years and weekly pay is capped at £475. The maximum amount of statutory redundancy pay is £14,250. You can give your staff extra redundancy pay if you want to, or have a qualifying period of less than 2 years.7 Oct 2015

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That is for the statutory redundancy scheme, this sets the minimum legal redundancy pay, an employer can offer more.


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Originally Posted by fish5133
Didnt know angela eagle was mp for the canary islands wink

Heh. Not yet smile This was when I was living on Wirral (over 40 years).

It is a little warmer out here and tbh, I couldn't give a toss about politics here. But do like to know what is going on back home.

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Going back to the first post, its a bit shitty to send out notices before Christmas imo. What harm would a couple of weeks be. Now Christmas has these worries now.

Self Centred council. Humbug.

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