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That size neg. is 120 film, used in many cameras, from simple Box Brownies to quite sophisticated cameras. It was one of the most popular sizes until 35mm cameras became more affordable. The beauty of 120 was that it was big enough to make contact prints from, whereas 35mm required enlarging and was more popular with those who had their own darkroom (usually a blacked-out bathroom).


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For what it's worth, does this look possible.. won't ay why or where atm. so you are not brainwashed.






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LLanbedrog, I'll check.

Nope, buildings aren't that close to the sand. It is an aspect that is weird, high density of buildings right by the sand.


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The image is supposed to be Pwllheli.

Reason :

Probably no car.

Day trippers by coach or train would have more luggage with them.

So must have had some shelter or refreshments somewhere.

Butlins at Pwllheli opened in 1950's

If the camera negs that Chriskay says could be developed in a darkroom. The photographer could have been the official Butlin's photographer. Taking pics to buy later.(That's what they did).


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Just a couple of comments.
I can't see any photographer's kit, mentioned earlier.
the picture was not taken with a cheap Box Brownie or other fixed focus camera because the buildings in the background are out of focus.
Granny, shoes; that type, when worn by a man, were known as "co-respondent" shoes, especially if they had some white on them, because they were worn by professional "co-respondents" who were employed by couples to provide evidence of infidelity in divorce cases. The shoes were easily identified by the private detective, employed to obtain evidence.


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DD was referring to the big bag, box and tripod(I think) next to the 26yr old girl who looks more like 16yrs. The one showing her shorts.

Interesting about the shoes. The tricks they got up to in those days ! Do you think the lady was a "co-respondent" ?

What were the shoes called if worn by a woman ? Did they become Oxford shoes ? There again, they could have been donkeys years old. Heeled and soled, heeled and soled, heeled and soled.

The greatest disappointment of the day is; Chriskay might be trying to say that the skills are lacking for a career as a freelance detective. camera That's it. Thrown the hat in ...off to bed. tired

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The thing which looks like a tripod is just a few spades stuck in the sand and the bags look nothing special; one seems to be a holdall and the other a small attache case.
As far as I know, there were only ever male co-respondents. Of course, it could be a very clever male co-respondent disguised as a woman. The shoes he/she's wearing look to me like a semi-brogue. They are definitely not Oxfords.
Yes, I was trying not to be too cruel when putting you off the idea of becoming a private detective. frown


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To the right of the group who are sitting directly in front of the steps there is a tripod with possibly a camera on top under a cloth and a few bags.

The focus looks strange, the building with the poster is in-focus at the bottom and out of focus at the chimney but there isn't that great a change in range. Likewise with the nearest stone building, bottom ok, top not. The negative was bodge-scanned on a 35mm scanner and 3 images stitched together.

Yep, Pwllheli not Llanbedrog, sorry - that's changed a lot since I was there but that was about 45 years ago, I'll check out a 1950's map later.

I don't think those building would correspond to a Butlins site? They tended to use rehashed Prisoner of War camps or build new and were isolated from local buildings.


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Our posts crossed, DD. If you enlarge the pic, I think you'll see it's not a tripod.
OK, the scanning method may account for the funny focus.


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Shhhhhhhhhhh (should be in bed )! DD, I think he might be right about the tripod. raftl


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I'd say not Pwllheli, the layout of the buildings and their height in relation to the beach is wrong.

What does CA mean on that flag?

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Whats getting my attention, is the Pole in the center/right ? Near the Hut.
Is it black and white, or red and white, as it looks distinctive about its possible location.

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The negative is the wrong way around

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Yes, that square flag pole has me intrigued - it doesn't look very strong so again a pointer that this must be somewhere with no storms.

Picture isn't the wrong way round - the poster say "for Personal freshness" the lifebuoy soap logo we think?




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What is it that's hanging on the side of the hut ? I'm only viewing it on my phone but they look like birds of some sort.

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