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What I don,t understand is how he was found guilty while the other two McDonald in particular we're not. Do we really know whether Evans knew he was being filmed? He is trying to overturn the guilty verdict so will not admit and show remorse at this stage. As I reiterate Rapists are ... but something about this case does not sit right with me.  Defiantly something not right. Also she was really pissed, she "forgot" yet there was no trace of alcohol in her system. What gives? Innocent people can be "found" guilty granny, I'm not defending rapists here I believe this man is innocent.
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No Granny thank god I have not experienced the other side of the fence as you put it and hope I never will, but I do still have the right to have an opinion!
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Just maybe she'd been given the 'rape drug' How would that show up 12 hours later ?
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No Granny thank god I have not experienced the other side of the fence as you put it and hope I never will, but I do still have the right to have an opinion! Yes Cools and so do I and it is a very strong opinion for reason best unsaid .
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Another thing, if a criminal gets arrested and "forgets" that's no plead of innocence in a court of law yet this woman "forgot" and they clearly have believed her "innocence".
1 rule for one and another rule for others?
This mans been made a scapegoat, footballer, famous, got money, an example has been made using this footballer dude.
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Just maybe she'd been given the 'rape drug' How would that show up 12 hours later ? What you on about? Should stay off that csi granny, puts bad things in your head.
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Ste....this man had sex with her, either rape or abuse or unwittingly consented to, by her. The fact is he took advantage of a situation when he obviously knew she was somewhat 'out of it' Even his mate who left the room , who had also had sex with her, warned the porter that she was not well. So they used her for their own pleasure ,knowing she was probably not in control of herself. It was not a case of having a girlfriend for the evening was it ?
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Just maybe she'd been given the 'rape drug' How would that show up 12 hours later ? What you on about? Her blood test were done after she had alerted the police the following morning after 11.00am. They had obviously left her there to sleep the whole thing off after he pissed off through the fire escape and back to his own apartment. Is that considerate or another inexcusable act ?
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Ste....this man had sex with her, either rape or abuse or unwittingly consented to, by her. The fact is he took advantage of a situation when he obviously knew she was somewhat 'out of it' Even his mate who left the room , who had also had sex with her, warned the porter that she was not well. So they used her for their own pleasure ,knowing she was probably not in control of herself. It was not a case of having a girlfriend for the evening was it ? So the jury say. Just my opinion granny.
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Ste....this man had sex with her, either rape or abuse or unwittingly consented to, by her. The fact is he took advantage of a situation when he obviously knew she was somewhat 'out of it' Even his mate who left the room , who had also had sex with her, warned the porter that she was not well. So they used her for their own pleasure ,knowing she was probably not in control of herself. It was not a case of having a girlfriend for the evening was it ? So the jury say. Just my opinion granny. Not the jury Ste....the witnesses
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Ste your quote " I believe this man is innocent."
You arrived at this conclusion obviously having sat through the trial, listened carefully and fully considered all the evidence I suppose
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Having done jury service last year I can see how Jurors can be wrong in their decision. A clever defendants barrister can sum up in such a way as to try and sow seeds of doubt in the jurors minds. Our case consisted of 2 defendants. One we unanimously found guilty with out too much problem. The other guy we all believed was probably guilty given all the circumstances but felt we lacked just one final piece of evidence. I am sure that given a different jury--with perhaps different personalities on it they both could have been found guilty.
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Yes Fish I too did jury service a few years ago and I agree with you. Hope I never have to do it again. My cases were not that serious thank god.
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Got mixed feelings regarding this one. Spoke about it a while ago with SIL.
I, too Cools do not understand why the McDonalds were found 'Not Guilty' but the Foot-baller was??
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