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RUDEBOX #891873 4th Aug 2014 12:51pm
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Interesting. So you struggle to answer your own views when brought into question. And no, for the record my name is not Harmony. Nor am I a woman. Unfortunate if you have someone who specifically disagrees with you (an enemy?) but that is not me.

Do you believe everything that a Middle Market Tabloid Newspaper happens to publish?


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Afraid not. I am intrigued as to why you seem so desperate to try and find me in the illustrious and anonymous world of the internet?

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Originally Posted by Kreki
Afraid not. I am intrigued as to why you seem so desperate to try and find me in the illustrious and anonymous world of the internet?


Not only me mate, everyone else on here too !


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Originally Posted by Abbot
My partner and kids went to the circus and had a great time. The staff did a 5 minute speech at the beginning pointing out the protesters have been invited into the circus grounds to see how and where the animals live and also where invited to the show for free, to see for themselves - they all refused.


So what did the animals do? I stand by what I said earlier and that they shouldn't be carted around and made to do tricks.

You want to see wild animals, at least see them in a reputable zoo where there's a good recreation of their habitat.

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Originally Posted by venice
Waddi, you seem to know all about this circus and you state that it more than meets legislative standards.
I would be genuinely interested if you could give us a breakdown of how a typical big cat at this circus , would spend a typical 24hrs ? What size is the accommodation cage , number of hours it would occupy it, number of hours it would be 'training' , hours performing etc etc.


Why don't you pay the circus a visit and ask the big cat trainer these questions, they are very open and will answer your questions.


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Wikiwirral is a public forum, where anyone and everyone can air their views thanks to freedom of speech but also allows a degree of Anonymity thanks to the nature of the internet.

So with that in mind, I fail to see why stalking and trying to find out my "Super hidden Identity" will help anyone's cause on here haha. But if your special Troupe of users want to know anything, why not just ask instead of acting out "Murder She Wrote" episodes! Could even maybe start your own discussion topic and protest at my presence on here?


Gibbo, a reputable Zoo like say for example, Knowsely Safari Park? A Well known Safari Park, that was headlining national news not so long ago for slacking welfare of their animals, and for Culling innocent animals and leaving their bodies to rot by some bins if I remember correctly. I didnt see any protests about that!

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got to love the way people link stuff from the rspca, are they still the most complained about charity in the uk? conning old people a speciality.

also notice no one has moaned about blue planet aquarium. keeping sharks in a tiny tank and watching them pretty much cripple themselves.

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Originally Posted by granny
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Afraid not. I am intrigued as to why you seem so desperate to try and find me in the illustrious and anonymous world of the internet?


Not only me mate, everyone else on here too !

Not me, I don't care who Kreki is. As long as he is nice :-)

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Afraid not. I am intrigued as to why you seem so desperate to try and find me in the illustrious and anonymous world of the internet?


Not only me mate, everyone else on here too !

Not me, I don't care who Kreki is. As long as he is nice :-)


Get back in your corner and beg for a bone .


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Originally Posted by mrhanky
got to love the way people link stuff from the rspca, are they still the most complained about charity in the uk? conning old people a speciality.

also notice no one has moaned about blue planet aquarium. keeping sharks in a tiny tank and watching them pretty much cripple themselves.


and are you complaining again Hanky, or even calling me old ?
Maybe people can't comment on what they haven't experienced. Those who do are lucky to be able to afford it !


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Originally Posted by granny


and are you complaining again Hanky, or even calling me old ?


didn't call you old wink

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Originally Posted by mrhanky

also notice no one has moaned about blue planet aquarium. keeping sharks in a tiny tank and watching them pretty much cripple themselves.
[quote/] A Well known Safari Park, that was headlining national news not so long ago for slacking welfare of their animals, and for Culling innocent animals and leaving their bodies to rot by some bins if I remember correctly. I didnt see any protests about that! [/quote]

Just because it was not widely reported does not mean that it did not happen.

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Waddi, you seem to know all about this circus and you state that it more than meets legislative standards.
I would be genuinely interested if you could give us a breakdown of how a typical big cat at this circus , would spend a typical 24hrs ? What size is the accommodation cage , number of hours it would occupy it, number of hours it would be 'training' , hours performing etc etc.

Why don't you pay the circus a visit and ask the big cat trainer these questions, they are very open and will answer your questions.
They lie to the audience that are as captive as the poor animals. Pay their paltry 6 quid and want reassurance from the Ring-Leader that Tigger gets fed and watered. Ring-master says 'Yes' so the Sheeples settle down and white- wash the TRUTH, from their minds that they know is true but hey, its only £6 and it keeps the kids amused....

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Waddi [/quote]

Why don't you pay the circus a visit and ask the big cat trainer these questions, they are very open and will answer your questions. [unquote]


The reason Im asking you is because given your unshakable support for the quality of life big cats have in a circus indicates you obviously must have personal detailed knowledge of these animals day to day circus lives (unless of course you are just blindly trusting and quoting claims from their trainers)-- and I like to hear answers from 'the horses mouth'
Not everyone is in a position to physically visit circuses etc , hence its interesting to hear views on an online forum

Youve previously stated that you think the pounds dog kennels are only suitable for temporary accommodation and that it would be cruel to keep dogs in those sort of conditions long term --in fact that euthanasia would be kinder , so Im wondering how you reconcile the idea of permanent containment of the circus's big cats, in spaces which may well be proportionately similar-- (which is why I asked the size of cats living accommodation -- you must be aware of it, to have bestowed your approval)

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