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Just type in "Christians Halal Meat" into Google and you'll have your answer:

Acts 15:29
You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality.


1 Corinthians 10:20-21
...the sacrifices of pagans are offered to demons, not to God, and I do not want you to be participants with demons. You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons too; you cannot have a part in both the Lord's table and the table of demons.

But:

Romans 14:14
As one who is in the Lord Jesus, I am fully convinced that no food is unclean in itself.


1 Corinthians 10:25-27 (also 1 Cor 8:4-8)
Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience, for, "The earth is the Lord's, and everything in it."
If some unbeliever invites you to a meal and you want to go, eat whatever is put before you without raising questions of conscience.

A few of the many search results:

http://www.gotquestions.org/halal-food.html
http://www.gotquestions.org/food-sacrificed-idols.html
http://barnabasfund.org/UK/Act/Camp...hould-Christians-eat-halal-meat.html?p=1
http://www.raptureforums.com/forum/christian-chat/76561-ok-christians-eat-halal-meat.html

Response to Gibbo.

Paul who wrote Corinthians, Romans and Acts says not to ask where the meat comes from. In his view there is only one God, and any meat sacrificed to 'idols' does not mean anything. The reason he suggests not to ask the origin of the meat is because at that time the transition between Gentiles and Jewish Christians was a difficult time. The Jewish Christians still identified with the Jewish law.So to help them he told them if their decision offended others, not to question. There is no question of sin. Yes, they were advised about wasting food as it was difficult to come by in those times. It was not committed sin. Today we are still being advised not to waste food.

In a nutshell:

Halal food is no different. There is one God who provides for us. Claiming the name of a false god does nothing to the food physically or spiritually. But, like the Corinthians, we should always act out of love. If we are with others who believe halal food is wrong to eat, we should refrain out of concern for their conviction. If we are served food by someone who makes a point that it is halal, we should refrain as a quiet sign that we do not accept the authority of the false god to which it was dedicated. If we are in a restaurant or market or school or home that, we suspect, is serving halal food, we should eat and give thanks to the true God who provides.

Some of the quotes have been isolated so I have enlarged


Acts 15:28-29

New International Version (NIV)

28 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: 29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.

Farewell.



Romans !4 v 13-17

13 Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in the way of a brother or sister. 14 I am convinced, being fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus, that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for that person it is unclean. 15 If your brother or sister is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy someone for whom Christ died. 16 Therefore do not let what you know is good be spoken of as evil.


1 Corinthians 10:18-21

New International Version (NIV)


18 Consider the people of Israel: Do not those who eat the sacrifices participate in the altar? 19 Do I mean then that food sacrificed to an idol is anything, or that an idol is anything? 20 No, but the sacrifices of pagans are offered to demons, not to God, and I do not want you to be participants with demons. 21 You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons too; you cannot have a part in both the Lord’s table and the table of demons


1 Corinthians 10:24-27

24 Let no one seek his own, but each one the other’s well-being.

25 Eat whatever is sold in the meat market, asking no questions for conscience’ sake; 26 for “the earth is the Lord’s, and all its fullness.”[a]

27 If any of those who do not believe invites you to dinner, and you desire to go, eat whatever is set before you, asking no question for conscience’ sake.



So what is not there, is the word 'sin' or implication of 'sin'. Jesus reduced the number of Commandments considerably, originally 613 commandments in the Torah which the Jewish faith followed, this was a time of complete change for Jewish Christians and also in it's infancy. Paul's guidance was given to help, not as punishment and threat of sinfulness.
Gibbo, today, I don't think any Christian's would have an issue over halal meat, other than the actual process of the slaughter, which would apply to many a non-believer too.

Paul who wrote Corinthians, Romans and Acts

Sorry, mistake. Almost universally agreed, Acts was written by the same person who wrote the Gospel of Luke.

whoa since when did wikiwirral turn into biblestudies.com

as i said earlier, this is getting a bit blown out of proportion, all they want to do is sell some f*cking sandwiches.

jeez.

Sorry mate. forgiveness


"Just because you're offended, doesn't mean you're in the right." - Ricky Gervais, 2011 AD

Rather predictably The ... have 'jumped on board'.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/05/07/pizza-express-halal-debate_n_5279050.html?1399465349

Seems you know more about The Sun than anyone else, you must read it really, otherwise you wouldn't know whats in it. I don't read papers but why should I when I have Rudebox to keep me informed.

If I read the ... why is the link to the Huff Post? duh.

with the pizza express story today yet again DEFRA and RSPCA are silent and "dumb" on allowing meaningless religions to do as they please
ANIMAL RIGHTS NOT RELIGIOUS RIGHTS !!
we kill millions of animals every year ,including many from Europe kept and killed via terrible cruelty and conditions to appease are vacuous massive consumption of cheap meat.
various religions only make up a tiny amount of this yet we continue to pander to them
We have lost control of our food and are lied to for profit on EVERY food stuff.
Denmark has banned it but well never have the balls
As usual the UK is weak to have a voice
Id love people who justify cruelty and hunting and all those horrible methods to be there at the point of death to see it.....up close.....their views would change I bet you
But with the human race if this will full ignorance continues out of sight out of mind itll always be.....
The commodification of animal death has gone right over board in all countries
WE OWE IT TO THEM they deserve respect in death as many have short and cruel lives esp pigs, chickens, male dairy cows etc
stunning and humane methods should run over stupid meaningless human religions PERIOD
I have always had very little sympathy with humans who gorge on crap foods sugar cheap meat fags beer all their lives then complain about fatness and ill health
KARMA is natures way of killing us to adjust the balance of our massive killing almost factory line death camp of the Nazis view of animals and their suffering

if anyones ok with this method.....watch on youtube
"earthlings"
"the task of blood"
"from farm to fridge"
"this is halal"
"our daily bread"
"food inc"
"this aint happy meat"

an interesting point is if you watched "supervet" last night, most workers in the vet industry are WOMEN and 99% of slaughter house staff are MEN basically cause you have to have low empathy for living things in one but high in the other
youll never have women moaning about the right to work in slaughter houses
although super vet was a man he showed utter respect for animals as a FORM OF LIFE AND THATS THE IMPORTANT THING that is often forgotten

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/...ing-us-say-chickens-201405078631907-05-1

CHICKENS have thanked consumers for their concern over methods of slaughter and asked if that goodwill could be extended to just leaving them alone.

I was in London working for years, you only seem to be able to get halal there.I'm not a Muslim so I asked one of them did they have an option that hadn't been prayed over by one of them, confused looks all around.I was in Whitechapel road, the tower of London is At the very bottom but it was crammed with muslims selling on the pavement,I saw cabbages in the gutter whilst being deafened by that wailing call to prayer of there's, and I thought this is England, the one where the few gave so much in the battle of Britain. A guy from Africa who came here as a refugee was saying on TV the other day he hated us and we owe the whole world a living because we ruined his country and most others.I'm not a rabid racist,I know there has to be a compromise but I also know that lots of racists are non whites.

If god didn't want us to eat animals why did he make them taste like meat?

My sentiments entirely.