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So, we have all heard the latest news on the latest killing of a 14 year old in merseyside by a pack of starving savage dogs bread to kill. 
 What are your views on this?
 
 Should the owners be put down?
 
 Should cancel that be aloud pets?
 
 Should there be a dog licence?
 
 For this latest case the owner involved is escaping prosecution. They have caused the death of a young person, savagely ripped apart by their starving pets yet they walk off Scott free.
 
 I put it to you here people, bring out the dog licence.
 
 Jail sentences for illegal breeders
 
 Jail sentences for death caused by illegal pet ownership.
 
 
 
 
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who said they where 'bred to kill' ? |  |  |  
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So, we have all heard the latest news on the latest killing of a 14 year old in merseyside by a pack of starving savage dogs bread to kill. 
 
 
 I put it to you here people, bring out the dog licence.
 
 Jail sentences for illegal breeders
 
 Jail sentences for death caused by illegal pet ownership.
 
 
 
 
What good is a licence, irresponsible owners of dogs will still be irresponsible regardless of a licence . There are laws in place for the illegal breeding of dogs and ownership of a dangerous dog  regardless if the animal bites someone or not. And from what I gather the dogs that were involved were not illegal and if the owner was responsible they should not have been dangerous and I have never met a people aggressive staffy. |  |  |  
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How did the girl get into the house if the occupier was not there? |  |  |  
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I'd heard it was her friends house, who was there, then went out leaving the poor girl on her own with what could only have been starving dogs.   |  |  |  
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who said they where 'bred to kill' ?Sorry katryn that sounded wrong.  It meant turned out to be killers.  
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So, we have all heard the latest news on the latest killing of a 14 year old in merseyside by a pack of starving savage dogs bread to kill. 
 
 
 I put it to you here people, bring out the dog licence.
 
 Jail sentences for illegal breeders
 
 Jail sentences for death caused by illegal pet ownership.
 
 
 
 
What good is a licence, irresponsible owners of dogs will still be irresponsible regardless of a licence . There are laws in place for the illegal breeding of dogs and ownership of a dangerous dog  regardless if the animal bites someone or not. And from what I gather the dogs that were involved were not illegal and if the owner was responsible they should not have been dangerous and I have never met a people aggressive staffy.I'd pay £200 for a dog licence, that way it would filter out a lot of irresponsible dog owners.  I think it would help.  
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Terrible terrible incident.  So sad a life has been lost.However, the dogs need not necessarily have been starving  -- many dogs are over zealous about food even when they are well fed. Its the pack mentality that I reckon kicked in following the alluring smell of a meat pie . The dogs,all breeds who are often not averse to a good scrap,  would have just gone into 'thats mine' mode until it got out of control, and the girl would have, in the frenzy been just another competitor.  I would be interested if the dogs were exercised fully as that is a huge factor in keeping a well balanced dog/s .  Sad that the girls involved didnt have the dog knowhow to see there was a risk with a pack of dogs/ a non owner in the house/ limited alluring food.      
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So, we have all heard the latest news on the latest killing of a 14 year old in merseyside by a pack of starving savage dogs bread to kill. 
 
 
 I put it to you here people, bring out the dog licence.
 
 Jail sentences for illegal breeders
 
 Jail sentences for death caused by illegal pet ownership.
 
 
 
 
What good is a licence, irresponsible owners of dogs will still be irresponsible regardless of a licence . There are laws in place for the illegal breeding of dogs and ownership of a dangerous dog  regardless if the animal bites someone or not. And from what I gather the dogs that were involved were not illegal and if the owner was responsible they should not have been dangerous and I have never met a people aggressive staffy.I'd pay £200 for a dog licence, that way it would filter out a lot of irresponsible dog owners.  I think it would help.  £200 for a licence is fair enough but I think all dog owners should be vetted before they are allowed to buy a dog. The people who buy these so called dangerous dogs would pay the licence money anyway if they go through the hassle of sourcing and paying for there status symbol what is a few extra quid for a licence. |  |  |  
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I think when a dog (dangerous or not) bites someone the owner should be prosecuted. This should happen in every case whether its on private property or not the owner should still be liable to prosecution. I have 2 small dogs and I would be happy with a law where I would be held responsible for my dogs actions as I am a responsible dog owner.Obviously prosecution after someone has been bitten or killed isn't going to solve the problem of irresponsible owners as the dog has already attacked but it might make owners think as everyone will be brought before the courts no matter what the circumstances around the incident were.
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Or ban pies for that matter. |  |  |  
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Ban back yard breeders for a start theyre only in it to make money. 
 no1s gonna keep me from u
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People seem to have these dogs to breed. The amount of dogs that woman had was stupid. Their should be tighter regulation on having dogs, if you can afford the maintance of vets bills why buy a dog. Went to the vets charity in liverpool with my mum afew months back and the amount of elderly woman in there with massive bull mastiffs and their sons outside was amazing, obviously coning the charity using their mums benifits to pay for treatment.
 Dont think a licence fee of 200 would be helpful to those that do look after their dogs as they are expensive anyway if looked after properly. Ive only had mine since before christmas and he has cost me a small fortune in vets bills, training, replacing chewed
 I think owners should be force to attend regular vets appointments to monitor behaviour and health to weed out bad ownership. And spading should be compulsory unless the owners can provide evidence that they responsible and has the money and time to breed.
 Sorry for the long post
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 Quote Ste"I'd pay £200 for a dog licence, that way it would filter out a lot of irresponsible dog owners.
 I think it would help."
 
 The irresponsible dog owners like equivalent car owners, wouldnt bother with legalities. You'd just have all the dutiful dog owners having to pay more for no good reason.
 
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