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Amen.
If you don't work then you should merely exist. Work makes you free eh? The words on the entrance gate to Auschwitz-Birkenau I believe.
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You want things in life you have to work for them not get them for free.......drivings a privilege just like ale, ciggies and electrical items.
And children!!
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It�s hard to be fit as a fiddle when you�re shaped like a cello!
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Didn't hitler have that above every concentration camp.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbeit_macht_frei
Uncertainty or not knowing causes depression, Im happy because I know I'm going to die one day!
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the bottom line of it is ,why should those that work pay for those that cant be arsed. if you havent got a job then get up every morning and sweep the streets for your dole make the place a nicer area for those of us that work to see when we have finished slogging our arses off to keep you in money
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A couple on JSA(over 25) get just £15.85 a day to live on, I wouldn't really say they were rolling in it.
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the bottom line of it is ,why should those that work pay for those that cant be arsed. if you havent got a job then get up every morning and sweep the streets for your dole make the place a nicer area for those of us that work to see when we have finished slogging our arses off to keep you in money Well if you're going to force people into sweeping the streets, then you'll have to pay them at least the minimum wage. No-one should have to work 40 hours a week for £60 [or whatever JSA is at the moment].
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A couple on JSA(over 25) get just £15.85 a day to live on, I wouldn't really say they were rolling in it. Don't they then get other supplementary benefits and credits to whack it up a bit e.g. free dental treatment, tax credit, council tax credits and others? The reason I ask is that as a pensioner I keep getting told I can get this and that but when I fill the forms in I'm told that because I don't get these supplementaries then I can't get anything else and am told to bog off. By this time the authorities, because I've filled their forms in, know everything about me. Crazy. 
Birkenhead........ God's own Room 101.
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the bottom line of it is ,why should those that work pay for those that cant be arsed. if you havent got a job then get up every morning and sweep the streets for your dole make the place a nicer area for those of us that work to see when we have finished slogging our arses off to keep you in money Assuming you are in work at the moment? What happens if through no fault of your own you lose your job? Would you be happy to be forced to sweep the streets or similar? There but for the grace of your god, go you!
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There's 2 types of unemployed.
Those out of work through no fault of their own who are actively seeking meaningful employment and those that are content sitting on their arses gleaning off the rest of us.
The latter have no right to complain. Many of them will do whatever it takes for a bit more cash, plead disability (loads do, even though they're not) etc etc.
If I lost my job then I'd spent whatever i had or was given looking for another one.
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It seems to me, some on here are not seeing the bigger picture. In this capitalist society will live in based on greed, by making the unemployed work for their benefits it will only increase unemployment.
Take street cleaning for example, if the powers that be can get the streets cleaned for less than the going rate, for benefit rate, then there would be no need to employ street cleaners, the same applies to the likes of B&Q, Macs, Supermarket shelf stacker's, etc,etc,
The employers would soon take advantage and have a very cheap workforce and we the tax payer would have more unemployment to contend with while firms get cheaper labour at slave labour rates.
God help us, Come yourself, Don't send Jesus, This is no place for children.
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There's 2 types of unemployed.
The latter have no right to complain. Many of them will do whatever it takes for a bit more cash, plead disability (loads do, even though they're not) etc etc.
The fraud rate for DLA etc is about 0.5%. link
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There's 2 types of unemployed.
The latter have no right to complain. Many of them will do whatever it takes for a bit more cash, plead disability (loads do, even though they're not) etc etc.
The fraud rate for DLA etc is about 0.5%. link Brilliant bit of research. Not. That takes into account those that are caught. Also, 'disabled' is to easy to be in this day and age.
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Apprentices work 40 hours a week for like £60. I'm not saying people on USA should have to work a 40 hour week to get their JSA I just find it numerous when people are so disgusted at the idea when people are doing that out there at the moment because it is a job.
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There's 2 types of unemployed.
The latter have no right to complain. Many of them will do whatever it takes for a bit more cash, plead disability (loads do, even though they're not) etc etc.
The fraud rate for DLA etc is about 0.5%. link Brilliant bit of research. Not. That takes into account those that are caught. Also, 'disabled' is to easy to be in this day and age. Holy crap ! Did i just read maddonnafan writing " its to easy to be disabled in this day and age" ? What the hell is so easy about being disabled in these days of cuts ??? On a brighter note ... superdrug has just withdrawn its support from the workfare scheme!
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