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I personally think the immigration story is to detract us from social cleansing.

The scrutiny panel at the town hall heard evidence from housing associations, tenants, social services, charities and police.
Early indications suggest that all parties (including the councillors) agreed that this is a disaster, waiting to happen.

We are all going back in 6 months time for an Impact Review.

I personally think the immigration story is to detract us from social cleansing.

Come on Rudebox, get real this is England, please do not lose your case by over egging the pudding.

Is the bedroom tax unlawful? Yes it must and has to be! part 2

update from speye
http://speye.wordpress.com/2013/01/
i challenged WPH last year over size criteria for boxrooms, as my boxroom is less than 70sqft, they stated they cannot class my bedroom as a boxroom even though it is less than 70sqft and that the size criteria only applys to HMO"S, i would suggest everyone measures their smallest bed/boxroom and we should all challenge WPH and seek legal advice

Watch this space....

Heres the Gov't Death Toll, so far
(their figures)

1300-sick people placed in W.R.A.G
2200- before their ATOS assesment was completed
7100-sick people placed in the ESA Support Group.

and of course there is propoganda/ incited hatred to overcome too-anti single mum, anti benefits, anti immigrant 'shite' from The ....

Great timing since D.C is due to give his European speech

Grrr!

The devil is probably in the detail

will find that link tomoz Rottylady- its a well researched article x

The bedroom tax is coming in aprill, wether we like it or not, so now famillys who are poor, and vulnerable people will have yet another thing to worry about.

Im in a 3 bedroom housing association house, i have a 3 year old girl and a 5 year old boy who have ther own room each, i also have a 20 year old at uni in london, who comes home at siummer holidays and xmas and easter. i have had a letter from my housing association saying in ther opinion i have a spare bedroom, as my 2 children are both under 10 and can share, and my son at uni, wont count for a room.

so i have the desiosn to downsize to a 2 bedroom house, for 6 years and then go back on the waiting list for a 3 bedroom when oliver is 10, because he wont be exspected to share with his sister then, or i can pay for this spare room that in reality is not spare.

This is so frustrating depressing and worrying, i dont know what to do for the best.

i understand the prinsiple of it, as ther are loads of people on the waiting list for homes, but surely building more homes would be a start.

ther is going to be so much instability coming, peoppe will get into rent arrears and become homeless, famillys will brake up, animals will be going to rescues, neighbourhoods disrupted, kids maybe going to social services.

peop-le who do deside to downsize, cant find the properties to downsize to, as ther is a national shortage of 1 bedroom properties. as a lot of people in 3 bedrooms who kids have left home, will be looking to downsize from a 3 bedroom to a 1 bedroom.

its not going to save the tax payer anything as housing costs for a 1 bedroom house usually exeed that of a 3 bedroom. people on benefits moving from a 3 bedroom social housing home to a 2 bedroom private home, will cost more to the tax payer in rent, as a 2 bedroom private home will cost more than a 3 bedroom social housing home.

the future is bleak

ive been on benefits and in the house im in for 16 months, and when i was given this place, i was given it, as it was deemed suitable for my needs, now im being told i have a spare room, its not fair to be moving the goal posts with people.

prior to this i was in private accomadation paying ridiculouse rents and struggling to make ends meet working.

i know some difficult desions have to be made, but surely, targetting peoples homes in such a way, is taking peoples rights away from them. i certainly feel like a second class citizen at the moment.

Sarah, there is already a BT thread here.

I will be looking to submit evidence at a 2nd council meeting, once the impact hits, of the effects on Wirrals people, animals (pets) and businesses. xx

* I merged them (posted that to save Rude from Scratching her head How?)

Lol Mark

well if i choose to stay in this 3 bedroom house that was deemed suitable for me, and now is deemed as me having a spare room, if i stay and pay, my animals, or at least some of them will have to go, ive rescued bunnies and had bunnies as pets for a few years now, they have been my hobby, but i will no longer be able to afford ther upkeep, and they will need rehoming.

i wouldnt mind but ive got a familly ive got kids living at home, and an older person at uni, its not like i dont need the room. my kids havent grown up and flown the nest, im not rattling around in a 3 bedroom by myself, with rooms to spare.

i dont think this has been thought threw.

many grandparents have ther grandchildren while ther parents go to work, beacause those working cant afford child care, so casualities ther, grandparents will no longer have the room to have ther grandkids over night, and the parents cant afford to work. 2 more social casualties.

i know that rspca,s and rehoming centres are fit to busting now, and cant take in any more pets, so were are all these pets going to go, it costs to have animals put to sleep, people may not be able to afford that, will animals start roaming the streets.

neighbourhoods of locals who have grown up around each other, and know the vulnerable and the elderly to call in on, and see if ther ok in the winter, this sort of social consciouseness will go, because places and people will become alien to each other

the list goes on, i dread to see how this will impact on people.

if people dont pay the by tax, they will get into arrears and get thrown out, and will be unlikely to be housed by another landlord because of ther arrears

Explosion waiting to happen.

Explosion waiting to happen indeed, Mark.
Also, so much stress and worry.It all seems like a long term recipe for ill health. If parents are stressed, kids are stressed. Which in turn results in multiple problems.
Just heard tonight that from October, housing benefit is to be paid directly to the householder rather than to the housing assoc. or landlords. More worry for many, having to do juggling acts with the money. Pay rent online, .....not everybody has a computer and they are talking about closing libraries which offer such facilities.
Complete mess of ideas so far. I understand the reasons but nobody is really seeing the true picture. Is there any MP out there shouting against, because so far, I have not heard anyone, from any party with any conviction, impact,or clout, just a little whimper and bleet by a few,to make us think they are concerned. No they are not.

I get my rent paid into the bank to pay my landlord but I take it thats private renting as my daughter does the same thing but I still have to find extra because the housing benefit doesn't cover the whole of the rent