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#734982 - 19th Oct 2012 10:24am A Bryant 1831 Wirral map online *****
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I like this map click

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A Bryant 1831

Little is known about this cartographer other than that he produced 12 county maps in the 1820s and 1830s. They were the peak of achievement for the private surveyor, soon to be eclipsed by the Ordnance Survey venturing further into commercial map production. At 1¼ “ to 1 mile, a slightly larger scale than Greenwood’s map, Bryant’s map is very similar in content but carries more detail in some areas. It is found in two versions: six sheets (plain) or, as seen here, two large sheets (coloured), folded in a slip case. Both versions can be seen at the Cheshire Record Office.

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Christopher Greenwood 1819

A Yorkshire surveyor, like Saxton, Greenwood emulated him in trying to produce an atlas of all the counties of England and Wales. He nearly succeeded. Working with his brother John and other partners, first in Yorkshire, then in London, he surveyed 33 English and 4 Welsh counties, most at a scale of 1” to the mile. Unlike Burdett, who had to do all his own surveying, Greenwood had the great advantage of being able to obtain trigonometrical data from the Board of Ordnance. The four sheets of Greenwood’s Cheshire map show more detail than those of Burdett and are noted for the quality of their design and engraving.





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#735008 - 19th Oct 2012 11:47am Re: A Bryant 1831 Wirral map online [Re: derekdwc]
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Excellent find Derek ! Hours of fun studying that one later. Interesting that Woodchurch Rd (section that is now twixt top of Singleton Ave and Woodchurch Rd Pri.School) is called Slush Lane - with a Slush Lane Cottage too! Never come across that before.

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#735016 - 19th Oct 2012 12:43pm Re: A Bryant 1831 Wirral map online [Re: derekdwc]
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Well spotted, Derek. Like Pinz, I'll have some fun looking around it.
Being 1831, it predates some of the Tithe Maps, so is very helpful in dating some buildings.
I noticed that the Boode Monument on Poulton Road is on the map, and an area near Seacombe Ferry would be is called 'Codling Gap', predating the use of 'Guinea Gap'. In addition, there a number of footbridges crossing water courses south of Poulton Road, that lead into the north side of Wallasey Pool.

Great stuff.

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#735082 - 19th Oct 2012 4:12pm Re: A Bryant 1831 Wirral map online [Re: Norton]
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Yes, lots to look at. Some points I've noted:
The signal posts on Bidston Hill.
The rail line from Flaybrick quarry.
No Vyner Rd. North or South.
The Ford hill diversion not yet built; Upton Rd. goes down what is now the Thermopylae Pass.

And so much more.
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#735221 - 19th Oct 2012 11:49pm Re: A Bryant 1831 Wirral map online [Re: derekdwc]
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Nice find, it's surprising how many roads that you expect to be there but are not, Sally Carr lane what a cracker.

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#735280 - 20th Oct 2012 11:13am Re: A Bryant 1831 Wirral map online [Re: davew3]
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I've now looked at the 1840 O.S. map, which shows the new Ford Hill route, so it was constructed between 1831 and 1840. Can anyone pin it down further?
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#735598 - 21st Oct 2012 9:57am Re: A Bryant 1831 Wirral map online [Re: chriskay]
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Intresting that bromborough was considered to have the largest desingnated park area, not quite the same nowadays with the business park and industries.

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#735722 - 21st Oct 2012 6:57pm Re: A Bryant 1831 Wirral map online [Re: derekdwc]
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Looking at the map there is "Cannon Rocks" marked at Thurstaston.
Anyone know why?
Would there have been cannon there at one time overlooking and protecting the Dee and its ports just as Fort Perch Rock protected the Mersey


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#736964 - 25th Oct 2012 7:03pm Re: A Bryant 1831 Wirral map online [Re: derekdwc]
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fab mate, cheers
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#737029 - 25th Oct 2012 10:24pm Re: A Bryant 1831 Wirral map online [Re: derekdwc]
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Great map Derek.Interesting to see some publichouses/hotels shown such as The Adelphi and at the end of Church Street a hotel which would have been The Birkenhead Hotel owned by the Willoughby brothers who ran the Birkenhead and Tranmere ferries, and also The Black Horse and Ship Inn in Wallasey Village. Great detail. I am enjoying too parts of the Cheshire map such as Tarvin shown in great detail. I have Littler ancestors from there.
Big thanks

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#737117 - 26th Oct 2012 12:08pm Re: A Bryant 1831 Wirral map online [Re: willoughby]
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Does anybody have informtion when the A41 "New chester road" was conceived as an idea and was subsenquently built?
Noticed there is no crossing over Bromborough pool on the map where the white stone bridge currently spans the river outlet.

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#737182 - 26th Oct 2012 2:43pm Re: A Bryant 1831 Wirral map online [Re: TommyThumb]
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There is lots of information on both Old Chester Road and New Chester Road in one or more of the 'Old Chestre Road' topics on this site.

I think you will find what you are asking for here (click).

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#741317 - 7th Nov 2012 8:19pm Re: A Bryant 1831 Wirral map online [Re: Norton]
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How about Moss cottage on Bidston Moss? What's that all about. There is a Black Horse shown round about where the Magazines Pub is. Never heard of that one!

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#753664 - 31st Dec 2012 12:33pm Re: A Bryant 1831 Wirral map online [Re: davew3]
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Originally Posted By: davew3
Nice find, it's surprising how many roads that you expect to be there but are not, Sally Carr lane what a cracker.


Just had a quick look at the link then followed the chat...then this! I only briefly looked at the map of my area...of all the names to find!!!

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#754781 - 4th Jan 2013 2:00pm Re: A Bryant 1831 Wirral map online [Re: derekdwc]
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Derek, Great work on sharing that. As an aside, has anyone else noticed the frequency of pubs called 'Black Horse' on the western end Wirral at that period, and presumably going back even further.


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