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368 Duke of Westminster 37 Watson Street - 167/9 Price Street

On doing my family tree I've discovered that my grandmother was a servant at the above address.
The head of house was an Isabella Foulkes described as a licenced victualler.
Was this a pub??

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Westminster Hotel,

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no this was a butchers shop...

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well done bert good research... victualler is a butcher so perhaps thats what she was

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The Westminster pub was on the corner of Price st and Watson St until the mid sixties,

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Not sure when victualler became a butcher but never mind. Think that was just a catch all name for food supplier. i.e. Licensed victualler was a booze seller.
I can't see 167/9 on Berts directory or am I missing something?

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Helles,
The Westminster Hotel was listed as 165, I assume it was big enough to take up plots 167 and 169.


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well helles, you have enlightend me that makes sense then a licensed victualler sells booze in the hotel. always learning...

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Well done NW,

Its not the first mistake made in the 1916 directory I've come across, on saying that I wonder if by 1916 the hotel had acquired part of the drapers?


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Both the street directories appear to be wrog.
I've also cocked up by calling it the Prince AlBERT which would have been at number 157 on this 1950's map.
I,ve got the Westminster down as Duke of Westminster from 1881 licence register

Anyone know what the club was just by it number 161?

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I'm not sure the 1911 directory is wrong, below, the 1911 census and 1921 phone book.

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On the 1950s map Watson Street is between numbers 167 and 169
Possibly building numbers may have been re-numbered as some were demolished and others built between your dates and the 1950s

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I worked at the Westmister Hotel when my uncle Joseph Patrick Lynch was the landlord in the late 1950s. It was definitely # 167-169 with a wider frontage on Price Street compared with Watson Street, although the private entrance for the accommodation upstairs was in Watson Street. It was a three storey building with the top floor given over to a number of small rooms all interconnecting without a corridor. rather odd. I was told by old timers that some locals refused to drink in the Westminster as it had accommodated the Birmingham Police during the national police strike years ago.

Does anyone have a photograph? Wirral Archives in Canning Street doesn't. I've been there, done that. DerekDWC's map of c1950s looks right as there was a back room leading from the bar and on a higher level if my memory is correct. Perhaps this area had been added on at some time as it doesn't appear on earlier maps.

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