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The guys a wrongun, he's guilty and will be convicted.
Sits on his fat stinkin ass all day getting pissed with his dole money and that grandma needs a slap too, no way he put the poor girls body up in the attic on his own, he was helped.
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Cannot speculate, not enough facts.
Yes, the family appear to be Jeremy Kyle contestant types but we just don't know, as yet??
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@ Ste. The u.k is full of 'waste of space' tennant super supping alkies, does not necarrsarily make them child killers/ paedos.
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I wouldn't bring capital punishment for every murderer. Just the really sick one's like Huntley, Brady, Shipman, West and this (BEEPED) when he's found guilty.
Think of the saving to tax payer, how much does it cost to keep Huntley & Brady alive each month? And with his easy(ish) life Huntley could well live another 50 or so years.
I would actually for once follow the USA and have 1st and 2nd degree murder, 1st is capital punishment and 2nd is life WITHOUT PAROLE in a highly secure prison involving work & mixing with other inmates.
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Cannot speculate, not enough facts.
Yes, the family appear to be Jeremy Kyle contestant types but we just don't know, as yet??
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Sorry that came across wrong, didn't mean it like that rude.
What I meant by that was he's obviously been neglecting the child.
It will all come to light soon I'm sure.
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Cannot speculate, not enough facts.
Yes, the family appear to be Jeremy Kyle contestant types but we just don't know, as yet?? We are all quick to judge. 
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hmmmm, educated opinion is more my bag, ste 
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Christ! You lot sound as bad as murderers. First of all, the guy hasn't been convicted of anything yet. There hasn't even been a trial yet! Secondly, capital punishment doesn't work. Look at the US. They have murder rates that far exceed the UK's. They have the death penalty. We don't. Almost all of the safest countries in the world have abolished the death penalty.
Also, lets have a look at our own history. Since the 1960s when hanging was got rid of for almost all crimes, there have been over 50 people convicted of murder who have since had their sentences overturned. These people were all innocent yet would have been killed if we had retained the death penalty. This would have made the State a murderer.
So when you start demanding the death penalty come back, try to think with a bit more reason and logic, and a bit less emotion. Firstly you're right, everybody is innocent until proven guilty and that's at it should be. Also you're also right about us being far too quick to convict with so few facts, but emotions are running high about this young girl. But when you say that the death penalty 'doesn't work' I have to disagree. The intention is for them to die and they do, ergo it works. Or did you mean as a deterrent? I don't understand why people argue that it's 'not a deterrent' when that's not the intention, it's actually intended as the ultimate punishmnent. If a child is murdered then the guilty person has forfeited their right to life imo.
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Christ! You lot sound as bad as murderers. First of all, the guy hasn't been convicted of anything yet. There hasn't even been a trial yet! Secondly, capital punishment doesn't work. Look at the US. They have murder rates that far exceed the UK's. They have the death penalty. We don't. Almost all of the safest countries in the world have abolished the death penalty.
Also, lets have a look at our own history. Since the 1960s when hanging was got rid of for almost all crimes, there have been over 50 people convicted of murder who have since had their sentences overturned. These people were all innocent yet would have been killed if we had retained the death penalty. This would have made the State a murderer.
So when you start demanding the death penalty come back, try to think with a bit more reason and logic, and a bit less emotion. Although I find the death penalty not to be the answer, there were far fewer murders in the 1950's and 60's.Between 1900 and 1949, 621 men and 11 women were executed in England and Wales, 16 of which were spies.So maybe the threat of the death penalty was a deterrent.Between 1887 and 1964, 60 men and 2 women were hung in Walton jail. In 2004, some prisoners are serving less than 5 years for offences which would have seen them hang in 1964. Which is quite worrying, as the crime is obviously not perceived as serious as it used to be!!I don't believe we should compare ourselves to the U.S.A. as not all States carry the death penalty for murder. Unfortunately , in 1964 I heard the death knoll of the last hanging at Walton prison. It had a big impact and to this day I can hear it. Spine chilling,and I would not like to think of anyone having to perform the task. We need some deterrent for such mindless killings these days, but what the answer is,who knows? Poor little Tia, her life ended by the people she trusted. Even animals seldom behave to their own, that way. Maybe the stocks could be a good idea so all their ex friends and families could humiliate them, prior to being locked away. What a good send off! Hope nobody takes offence at that idea!
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I wouldn't bring capital punishment for every murderer. Just the really sick one's like Huntley, Brady, Shipman, West and this (BEEPED) when he's found guilty.
Think of the saving to tax payer, how much does it cost to keep Huntley & Brady alive each month? And with his easy(ish) life Huntley could well live another 50 or so years.
I would actually for once follow the USA and have 1st and 2nd degree murder, 1st is capital punishment and 2nd is life WITHOUT PAROLE in a highly secure prison involving work & mixing with other inmates. Totally agree. 1st degree murder should carry a life sentence without parole NOW. I cannot believe how many murderers get lenient sentences for killing someone. Life should mean life, not life and serving 12 years OR LESS IN SOME CASES in jail. Unfortunately I don't think that the death penalty will ever be brought back but we could hope the government and judiciary could make sentencing meaningful.
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the death sentence is final,no chance to reoffend. (case closed)
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What happens if they hang the wrong person? (case reopened)
God help us, Come yourself, Don't send Jesus, This is no place for children.
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I think with forensic evidence these days that is very unlikely.
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Its only conclusive on the tele, not in real life.
God help us, Come yourself, Don't send Jesus, This is no place for children.
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