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we get a gong for it, winner


So do I, I think they are all jealous

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Why dosent the Queen help people in this country especially the elderley 1's who fought this country aswell instead of seeing them struggle, financially etc why cant she help out the poor and homeless etc of the country.

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Originally Posted by Kathryn
Why dosent the Queen help people in this country especially the elderley 1's who fought this country aswell instead of seeing them struggle, financially etc why cant she help out the poor and homeless etc of the country.


Pensioners are guaranteed £120 a week, over double what the unemployed get. There are very few pensioners struggling unless they are giving their money away.

I don't understand how anyone can be homeless.


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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
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Why dosent the Queen help people in this country especially the elderley 1's who fought this country aswell instead of seeing them struggle, financially etc why cant she help out the poor and homeless etc of the country.


Pensioners are guaranteed £120 a week, over double what the unemployed get. There are very few pensioners struggling unless they are giving their money away.

I don't understand how anyone can be homeless.

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In addition to the few hundred they get handed to them each year for their fuel (to put it into perspective my electric bill for a year is about the same as they get given, and I bet I have a lot more gadgets and gizmos running up my bill, plus a 500 litre fishtank that needs to be heated and lit up for the plants to grow...). And then there's the free bus pass, and the TV licence etc, which a Jobseeker would have to pay (indeed they are expected to make their way to their local jobcentre every week are they not?).

Although unemployed single people/couples without children can easily become homeless due to LHA rates for these people are pathetic in comparison to private rents, so HB and CT won't always keep a roof over their head.

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Originally Posted by Kathryn
Why dosent the Queen help people in this country especially the elderley 1's who fought this country aswell instead of seeing them struggle, financially etc why cant she help out the poor and homeless etc of the country.


She probably doesn't know that these people actually exist.

(Don't forget, everywhere she visits smells of fresh paint)

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An even bigger laugh is that we pay Winter Fuel Allowance to 73,000 people who have moved abroad too EEC areas eg Costa Brava where the weather is somewhat warmer than here.


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An even bigger laugh is that we pay Winter Fuel Allowance to 73,000 people who have moved abroad too EEC areas eg Costa Brava where the weather is somewhat warmer than here.

Pathetic isnt it, if ever there was a waste of money, it was this. They need to either means-test it or scrap it and incorporate it into pension credit imho.

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we get a gong for it, winner


So do I, I think they are all jealous


i think they are mate


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Jealous of what exactly? Not being able to think for myself? No, I'd rather have a life in the peasantry and know what I achieve in my humble life, I do so through hard work and determination, and not through being born with a silver spoon in my mouth.

Fair do's to them though, they know nothing of real life, and thus they think life is all tea parties and diamonds.

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All UK householders are entitled to the free medal unless they choose to withdraw the offer.


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Jealous of what exactly? Not being able to think for myself? No, I'd rather have a life in the peasantry and know what I achieve in my humble life, I do so through hard work and determination, and not through being born with a silver spoon in my mouth.

Fair do's to them though, they know nothing of real life, and thus they think life is all tea parties and diamonds.


what has not thinking for yourself have to do with getting the diamond jubilee medal?


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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
All UK householders are entitled to the free medal unless they choose to withdraw the offer.


gen? check your qualifying criteria

http://www.culture.gov.uk/news/news_stories/8248.aspx



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Originally Posted by MattLFC
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Originally Posted by Kathryn
Why dosent the Queen help people in this country especially the elderley 1's who fought this country aswell instead of seeing them struggle, financially etc why cant she help out the poor and homeless etc of the country.


Pensioners are guaranteed £120 a week, over double what the unemployed get. There are very few pensioners struggling unless they are giving their money away.

I don't understand how anyone can be homeless.

withthat...

In addition to the few hundred they get handed to them each year for their fuel (to put it into perspective my electric bill for a year is about the same as they get given, and I bet I have a lot more gadgets and gizmos running up my bill, plus a 500 litre fishtank that needs to be heated and lit up for the plants to grow...). And then there's the free bus pass, and the TV licence etc, which a Jobseeker would have to pay (indeed they are expected to make their way to their local jobcentre every week are they not?).

Although unemployed single people/couples without children can easily become homeless due to LHA rates for these people are pathetic in comparison to private rents, so HB and CT won't always keep a roof over their head.


Matt oh dear! You don't like the Monarchy because they have tea and diamonds, you don't like the pensioners having £200, winter fuel payments, you don't like them having bus passes or free TV licences after they are 75yrs. I suppose you don't like the Prime Ministers because they (generally) had a good eduation and have millionaire friends. What about the children with free school dinners or free milk, do they come under the same banner of your 'not likes', or those with disabilities who get more benefits than others? Most pensioners have paid about 50 years National Insurance contibutions towards their state pensions, but maybe you'd like it better if it was paid to you for your fish tank or to grow your plants. What plants do you grow at this time of year that need electricity??
It seems you are very angry, or to use someone elses word 'jealous' but of course the only person jealousy hurts, is the jealous person. Would you like everyone to be unemployed so we each have the same, which would be very little if you think about it? It's those with most money who are paying the high taxes to keep the unemployed in benefits. I suggest you give up your fish tank, gadgets, gizmo's and plants and stick with the old telly.You may be able to save some money, then you can give it to help the poor unemployed and homeless! What a good idea! wink

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Originally Posted by dave_h
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All UK householders are entitled to the free medal unless they choose to withdraw the offer.


gen? check your qualifying criteria

http://www.culture.gov.uk/news/news_stories/8248.aspx



Wait, even PCSO's get this medal too, for what?

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