Forums65
Topics76,469
Posts1,033,977
Members14,847
|
Most Online80,173 Apr 25th, 2025
|
|
7 members (2228a, 2 invisible),
27,055
guests, and
783
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
|
|
More Bins
by diggingdeeper - 8th May 2025 8:12am
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
M |
T |
W |
T |
F |
S |
S |
|
|
|
1
|
2
|
3
|
4
|
5
|
6
|
7
|
8
|
9
|
10
|
11
|
12
|
13
|
14
|
15
|
16
|
17
|
18
|
19
|
20
|
21
|
22
|
23
|
24
|
25
|
26
|
27
|
28
|
29
|
30
|
31
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 1,452
Forum Addict
|
Forum Addict
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 1,452 |
The maximum speed limit is 70 in this country, if the need to learn how to control their vehicles at speeds in excess of this they should do it off road, making race tracks the ideal places, the so called traffic can be made up of other police vehicles so it is safely controlled.
When your Nan dies because they got there 20 seconds too late, you'll think limiting emergency services to the 'speed limit' is fcuking ridiculous. True. But no-one said that. Learn to read. What was said was that TRAINING at high speed on public roads would not be right or proper - not responding to a REAL emergency. Frankly I rather doubt that this WAS training... if as stated they were really going that fast. Police are not exempt from speed laws.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,868
Forum Veteran
|
Forum Veteran
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,868 |
Police are not exempt from speed laws. "By virtue of Section 87 Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 (as amended by Section 19 Road Safety Act 2006), (1) No statutory provision imposing a speed limit on motor vehicles shall apply to any vehicle on an occasion when– (a) it is being used for fire and rescue authority purposes or for or in connection with the exercise of any function of a relevant authority as defined in section 6 of the Fire (Scotland) Act 2005, for Ambulance purposes or for Police or Serious Organised Crime Agency purposes,(b) it is being used for other prescribed purposes in such circumstances as may be prescribed, or (c) it is being used for training persons to drive vehicles for use for any of the purposes mentioned in paragraph (a) or (b) above, if the observance of that provision would be likely to hinder the use of the vehicle for the purpose for which it was being used on that occasion." It seems to me totally reasonable that the emergency services should be allowed to train under realistic conditions. This includes negotiating whatever numpties are using the roads at the time.
Carpe diem.
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 1,452
Forum Addict
|
Forum Addict
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 1,452 |
Oh I see. Law amended in 2006. Still not in favour though, I seriously do not like the idea of public roads being used for high speed training. Only a matter of time before someone "cops" it. Then I am pretty sure it will turn out to have been the "numpty"'s fault. "Should have got out of the way"... Justifiable though I am sure some you will say, got to make their training "realistic". I guess that then, the "what if it was your child" argument wouldn't apply... yeah right.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,019
Wiki Veteran
|
Wiki Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,019 |
I've seen them in big 8 bike convoys a few times on the way to formby, not sure of the name of the dual caridgeway its on but I assume they are just practicing for convoys etc.
Uncertainty or not knowing causes depression, Im happy because I know I'm going to die one day!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 181
Enthusiast
|
Enthusiast
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 181 |
Oh I see. Law amended in 2006. Still not in favour though, I seriously do not like the idea of public roads being used for high speed training. Only a matter of time before someone "cops" it. Then I am pretty sure it will turn out to have been the "numpty"'s fault. "Should have got out of the way"... Justifiable though I am sure some you will say, got to make their training "realistic". I guess that then, the "what if it was your child" argument wouldn't apply... yeah right. High speed training must of been around a long time and i can't recall anyone killed through it. Plus what happens if they're on a real shout and crash due to lack of training?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 16,347 Likes: 1
Wiki Master
|
Wiki Master
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 16,347 Likes: 1 |
Oh I see. Law amended in 2006. Still not in favour though, I seriously do not like the idea of public roads being used for high speed training. Only a matter of time before someone "cops" it. Then I am pretty sure it will turn out to have been the "numpty"'s fault. "Should have got out of the way"... Justifiable though I am sure some you will say, got to make their training "realistic". I guess that then, the "what if it was your child" argument wouldn't apply... yeah right. High speed training must of been around a long time and i can't recall anyone killed through it. Plus what happens if they're on a real shout and crash due to lack of training? load of bollocks if you ask me, whats the training for? anyone with a brain half the size of an egg knows it`s common knowledge to "be aware at all times" or they shouldn`t be on the road at all. The police have been in real crashes before and they get treated the same as anyone else would be, they don`t get any special treatment, after all, they are human 
![[Linked Image]](https://www.wikiwirral.co.uk/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/download/Number/13143/filename/sig.jpg) Putin khuilo
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 22
Newbeee
|
Newbeee
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 22 |
Actually, there has been at least one death during high-speed training... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/7657421.stmHowever.... they were clearly exceeding training limits... I wouldn't say that training should be stopped - rather that it needs to be planned well, and kept under control... Indeed, for motorbikes, it's extremely important to keep skills current - I know when I've had a couple of weeks break from mine, I feel rusty and need a couple of hours just to bed back in....
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 14,490 Likes: 31
Wiki Master
|
Wiki Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 14,490 Likes: 31 |
The part I don't like is the "self-training" whereby any police motorist can just go zooming around at any time when they are on duty and call it training.
It should at least be controlled, authorised and monitored, with tetra at least they can now see what they are actually doing.
We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn https://ddue.uk
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 467
Smartchild
|
Smartchild
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 467 |
If a police car or bike goes through a red light and is caught on camera.It has to be logged along with the job number it is attending . All the stuff about the Sargent's chips going cold is a load of bunk.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,346
Forum Master
|
Forum Master
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,346 |
All the stuff about the Sargent's chips going cold is a load of bunk. Soooo true mate, no excuses now they got microwaves at the station!! 
IF IT HAS A HOSE THEN IM YOUR MAN
BETTER TO BURN OUT THAN FADE AWAY!
|
|
|
Click to View Topic.
|
|
Posts: 2,362
Joined: April 2009
|
|
There are no members with birthdays on this day. |
|
|
|
More Bins
by diggingdeeper - 19th Jul 2024 11:05am
|
|
|
|