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#581715 - 13th Sep 2011 5:48pm Jailed for trolling?
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Okay what he did was nasty but prison just seems way over the top to me, am I missing something here?

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Sean Duffy case highlights murky world of trolling

A man has been jailed for 18 weeks for sending abusive messages on social networking sites.

Sean Duffy, from Reading, Berkshire, posted hurtful remarks on pages set up in remembrance of girls who had died.

His victims were the bereaved relatives of people he did not know, and included the family of Worcester teenager Natasha MacBryde who killed herself after being bullied.

Duffy pleaded guilty to two counts of sending a communication of an indecent or offensive nature.

The charges related to Facebook and YouTube posts about Miss MacBryde, 15, who Duffy had never met.

But exactly what constitutes trolling, who does it, and who does it affect?

Trolling is described by Oxford Dictionaries Online as an "informal term".

It means to send or submit a provocative email or posting with the intention of inciting an angry response.

Fevzi Turkalp, a technology expert from gadgetdetective.com says trolling is often used in chatrooms and online forums, especially in the technology world.

"Someone will go onto an Apple website and say something derogatory about Apple, knowing full well people on there will be fans of Apple, in order to provoke a response," he said.

However, there is a darker side to trolling, in which people take advantage of anonymity to make hurtful and offensive remarks.

Cyberbullying

"People feel protected by anonymity and the true nature of people comes to the fore," said Mr Turkalp.

It is at this point that trolling can also descend into cyberbullying.

Cyberbullying is defined by Mr Turkalp as "a repetitious and malicious activity by one person or a group of people against another individual".

In the case of Miss MacBryde, her bereaved family and friends were targeted by Duffy's trolling.

Duffy posted messages on a remembrance page set up by Miss MacBryde's friends.

In one of the posts he called the teenager a sl*t.

He also posted a video on YouTube, entitled Tasha the Tank Engine, showing the children's character Thomas the Tank Engine with Miss MacBryde's face.

Miss MacBryde had thrown herself under a train after being cyber-bullied in a separate incident.

In another cyberbullying case, Carney Bonner, 17, told BBC Berkshire in March how he almost "slit his wrists" due to being bullied on Facebook as a 14-year-old.

And, although it is commonly believed that teenagers are the main victims of cyberbullying, teaching unions also report a rise in incidences against staff.

Chris Keates, General Secretary of the NASUWT, the largest teachers' union, said pupils had started to use "sophisticated tools" against teachers.

"Misuse of internet sites can destroy teachers' confidence and professional reputation and provide yet another vehicle for false allegations against staff.

"New cases of abuse, harassment and humiliation are emerging all the time."


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#581719 - 13th Sep 2011 5:51pm Re: Jailed for trolling? [Re: GrandMasterFlash]
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#581722 - 13th Sep 2011 6:01pm Re: Jailed for trolling? [Re: GrandMasterFlash]
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I think there's a bit if a difference between "Trolling" in the long-used internet community sense and being abusive, or hurtful.

Trolling is annoying and is certainly done in order to provoke repsonses but it really has nothing to do with abuse, harrassment or humiliating people...

What this idiot did, goes WAY beyond any accepted definition of "Trolling"!

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#581723 - 13th Sep 2011 6:03pm Re: Jailed for trolling? [Re: CVCVCV]
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Originally Posted By: CVCVCV
What this idiot did, goes WAY beyond any accepted definition of "Trolling"!


Yeah I wouldn't call it trolling either but I really don't think prison is any way to deal with it :s

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#581724 - 13th Sep 2011 6:06pm Re: Jailed for trolling? [Re: GrandMasterFlash]
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iv only had a couple but so glad iv kept/copied every aggressive post/pm iv ever received as you never know when you might need them!
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#581725 - 13th Sep 2011 6:08pm Re: Jailed for trolling? [Re: GrandMasterFlash]
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we had trolls on my facebook a few months back robbing peoples pictures of kids and saying things about them also has babies with blood coming out of there head and all this they took a picture of my partners Baby so we contacted the police as did so many other people and they did say they cant do anything about it..

it depends in what way they are trolling as the above was revolting and sick but also annoying etc

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#581729 - 13th Sep 2011 6:30pm Re: Jailed for trolling? [Re: jessiikahh]
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Originally Posted By: jessiikahh
we had trolls on my facebook a few months back robbing peoples pictures of kids and saying things about them also has babies with blood coming out of there head and all this they took a picture of my partners Baby so we contacted the police as did so many other people and they did say they cant do anything about it..

it depends in what way they are trolling as the above was revolting and sick but also annoying etc

How did they access the pictures? Did they hack the accounts?

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#581732 - 13th Sep 2011 6:37pm Re: Jailed for trolling? [Re: Softy_Southerner]
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Just heard bout this on car radio it's disgusting and 18 weeks and banned from networking sites for 5 years how they gonna know all he has to do is sign up in different screen names
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#581741 - 13th Sep 2011 6:49pm Re: Jailed for trolling? [Re: reddragon]
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I think prison is fair, I hope it deters other idiots from doing the same and makes him regret what he's done.
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#581746 - 13th Sep 2011 6:55pm Re: Jailed for trolling? [Re: Softy_Southerner]
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Originally Posted By: Softy_Southerner
Originally Posted By: jessiikahh
we had trolls on my facebook a few months back robbing peoples pictures of kids and saying things about them also has babies with blood coming out of there head and all this they took a picture of my partners Baby so we contacted the police as did so many other people and they did say they cant do anything about it..

it depends in what way they are trolling as the above was revolting and sick but also annoying etc

How did they access the pictures? Did they hack the accounts?


yes they did to ours and a few others put also people where liking groups then they where taking pictures it was disgusting i couldnt believe what people actually do frown

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#581766 - 13th Sep 2011 7:31pm Re: Jailed for trolling? [Re: GrandMasterFlash]
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This is nothing new confused

Did you lot not know that this law has been out for years? smack
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#581770 - 13th Sep 2011 7:37pm Re: Jailed for trolling? [Re: GrandMasterFlash]
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Astounds me how many people think the internet is exempt, its a public place and a public post on the internet is just the same as putting it in a newspaper, on a billboard or on television etc.
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#581771 - 13th Sep 2011 7:37pm Re: Jailed for trolling? [Re: GrandMasterFlash]
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I didn't mean anything to do with there being a law against it, I just think prison is a stupid punishment for it!

And if someone put it in a newspaper or said it on tele I still don't think prison makes any sense, nothing to do with the fact it's on the internet. People have said hurtful things to me before, should they go to prison? Of course not!


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#581775 - 13th Sep 2011 7:45pm Re: Jailed for trolling? [Re: GrandMasterFlash]
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Originally Posted By: GrandMasterFlash
I just think prison is a stupid punishment for it!


Not at all gmf, this type of behaviour can lead to suicide, in fact I believe there have been a few cases on this subject reported in the papers.
It is a very serious offence.
Now if a family member discovered their loved one had ended their life due to cyber harassment I am pretty sure they would want to see the guilty party in prison.
This guy has been used to send a message out.
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#581779 - 13th Sep 2011 7:50pm Re: Jailed for trolling? [Re: GrandMasterFlash]
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Originally Posted By: GrandMasterFlash
People have said hurtful things to me before, should they go to prison? Of course not!


The Internet is a very large file full of evidence which even when edited can be retrieved.
Basically the evidence speaks for itself on the net therefore resulting in a more solid conviction.
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