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My Dad worked with NL's Dad on the docks.In his day NL was a local celeb'!
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I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW THAT AS WELL....Next door to Johnny Lodges was a double fronted general shop which was run by a guy who wore a pork pie hat (I think?)....but he was a relative of Nigel Lythgoe the tv dancer who later did a similar job to Simon Cowell

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Ooh' now that rings a bell.
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the chippy that served "from a hatch" must have been the tiny one just past the wash house further down Oakdale road (near the boys club).


Could be. When I say a "hatch" It was like a stable door, where the top and bottom were on seperate hinges, and the bottom had a fold down "counter" when they were serving.

Like I say, I was only 4 or 5, so considering it was about 45 or 46 years ago, not a bad memory. wink

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I think this was the year of the Queen's Coronation going by the pics in the shop window.
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Oh,thankyou so much for that info'.I remember the chippy by the wash-house,don't remember the hatch though! It was small and painted blue.My auntie used to say the Germans bombed it in the war.This could have just been a story though.My nan had two shops over the road in Ashville.

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thats Johnnie Lodges on the left corner of your picture...yeyyyy!

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not the photo with the woman and the lad ....the other one!

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I bought the photo from a History Fair. The man said that he found the original folded up and used to wedge under the backdoor.
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thats Johnnie Lodges on the left corner of your picture...yeyyyy!

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It deffinately LOOKS like a pub. the "Strong" on the window I will guess is followed by "ales". And I can, I think, JUST make out "Grants" on the right end of the plinth over the window. Did they HAVE off licences outside of pubs then?

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I can remember it from about 59' or 60' and it was only an off licence then....and it had a very tall counter which made Johnny tower over you.
It was laid out like a pub but it had no furniture...I'd love to know if it had ever been a pub

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I remember it like that too! I seem to recall as you looked at the counter{that was like a bar} to the right was a door that lead into a bar.It was very small,more of a snug.
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I can remember it from about 59' or 60' and it was only an off licence then....and it had a very tall counter which made Johnny tower over you.
It was laid out like a pub but it had no furniture...I'd love to know if it had ever been a pub

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If John Smiths is anything like Whitbread, the signs go into storage in a kind of company "museum". The only exception I know of was the Angel in Birkenhead, and Cerberus MC (Bike club) got that.

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i used to live right behind the old dale in milton rd if you can remember in the middle of the building there was a door which was called "the out-door" kids would go in for crisps and pop i also remember "adams brothers" the bike shop run by two sisters and at the bottom of milton rd you had "mrs braithwaites" sweet shop there was also a "coffin makers" and at the bottom of shakespeare "the pipe cleaners" i remember the wash house and "johnny lodgers" which was a pub many a moon ago there was also a bookies over the road from "the bird" called ashmans

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i used to live right behind the old dale in milton rd if you can remember in the middle of the building there was a door which was called "the out-door" kids would go in for crisps and pop i also remember "adams brothers" the bike shop run by two sisters and at the bottom of milton rd you had "mrs braithwaites" sweet shop there was also a "coffin makers" and at the bottom of shakespeare "the pipe cleaners" i remember the wash house and "johnny lodgers" which was a pub many a moon ago there was also a bookies over the road from "the bird" called ashmans
Hi Wilson. Can I ask around what decade this would be?

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yes bezzy we moved from milton rd about 1972-73 having lived there since i was born in 1962. milton shakespeare and byrom were quickly demolished. the earlier poster was right about the "chippy" next to the bird was called "macs" i seem to remember the houses between the old dale and the bird were knocked down in the late sixties and the waste ground at the bottom of milton rd was called "the stables"

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