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Ignoring the spongers, I can never get it into my head as to why some poor bugger who has worked for the same company for x number of years gets made redundant and all of a sudden he is ... because he has to sign on. Is he (sorry, or she) supposed to live in a cupboard until the powers that be decide to get them out if needed?

Please don't be fooled by Tory spin and the crap their newspapers put out. The upper classes have been fiddling us for years and use unemployed and disabled as a smokescreen.

The people who make the rules are the ones who never have to abide by them.

Ignore the fact that my politics are slightly to the Right of Atilla the Hun. No one is banging on about the poor souls who have recently lost their jobs and are trying to find another one. They are on about the out and out scroungers who know all the ropes and have for years been milking the system for max gains. The more they take out of the system the less there is for the unfortunates who really need a helping hand. Like I said before, there are known people who take the max out and also work on the side whilst they are pretending to be too sick to work. If you can convince me that that is how it should be then I will show my arse in Woolworths window.

You'd be lucky to find a woolworths window, lol :-)

Germany still has woolworths

The boys no fool, he's lost arguments before.

Woolworths is online now...

Yeh but how do you decide who is a sponger and who is a genuine claimant? The DSS or whatever they are called jump all over the the soft targets and leave the bad ones alone. There was a documentary on the box many years back that followed investigators. They admitted most of those charged were the most needy. Please don't give us this propaganda about there being more for the needy if they clamped down on the scroungers. Fact: There are billions unclaimed every year. I don't see any TV adverts telling those people to fill their boots. If I was religious I would say there but for the grace of god go I. I pity anyone whose politics are to the right of Atilla the Hun because unless you are one of the Eton/Harrow set then they don't give a f*** about you! You are extremely naive if you think otherwise.

How can you do your pick n mix online ?

If we forget about so called scroungers on the dole and who's right of Attila and left of Lenin,Helles raised a very good and what should be taken as a serious point, the billions that are not being paid out in benefits to the genuine needy. I wonder how many people in this country are aware of their true entitlement, how many people are aware of who to turn to for free independent advice. Luckily i have never had to do it, years ago an elderly chap i used to keep an eye on went to see, through a friend of a friend a benefits adviser, the adviser was a voluntary adviser, set up by some left wing organisation to help the elderly and unemployed, thanks to them his income was raised about £17 a week, the thing is, we shouldn't all have to be Philadelphia lawyers to get our rightful allowances and the people of this country shouldn't be made to look like shameful scroungers to get what is their rightful entitlement. If its thought that its fair play to chase these so called benefit cheats then its also fair play to make sure that people get every penny thats rightfully theirs. The top echelon of this society have all sorts of lawyers and accountants making sure they don't pay a penny in taxes if they can get away with it, why not the same help for the bottom rung of the ladder.

you can't wack a good ol' left wing rant. Hitler could not teach a lefty anything about being intolerant of anybody else's point of view. You are right boys and everyone else is totally wrong, exterminate.

Exterminate, that was the Daleks Bandy.

Oh yeeeaaahh!
Anyway bert, give people what they need not what they want is what I'm trying to get at.
Need a pair of shoes? Here you go
Want a pair of Nikes? Bog off. You want Nikes do a bit extra to get 'em.

I agree Bandy, but don't give them one shoe when their entitled to two. Don't forget you haven't paid your dues all your life only to be deprived of your entitlements by secrecy and gobbledygook, they would soon come after you for not paying your taxes etc, they are not so quick in coming forward and telling what you should have.

i agree with you all....think they should take a good thing from the usa (about the only good thing) and use the likes of food, clothing in the form of vouchers....
i have been in an unemployed household where we were on the dole, yeh things were tightish but i could go and get a new pair of trabs (named) for the kids on giroday, pay for new clothes, decorate their room at a whim easily on the dole and the cupboards were always full.....

have also been on the other foot where me and hubby both worked for years, him nights, me days ( my job i hated and got just over minimum wage but they worked u as a dog) and couldnt even afford a roll of wallpaper at the end of the week...
we sat and watched ppl, when we actually got time to spend together, on the dole being able to afford the luxury of a pint, whilst hubby and i couldnt even afford a six pack between us.....
the only good thing is we have a sense of pride....
i came out of work last month, my choice, to hopefully start up my own business, coz i was sick of being used and abused as a nursery nurse (really shit career and wouldnt advise no-one to go into it)
i am claiming nothing, only the change in circumstances for tax credits, am not arsed about my stamp as it means nothing....i dont care no more....
yes there are billions of unclaimed benefits lying around but where does it go....lining parliament and their cronies no doubt..or to send away as child benefit to other EU countries, because there parents have the luxury of a job here....
this subject makes me angry

good luck with the biz queen. research your stamp thing though, my missus had to pay back money to get the rest of her pensh. I know the rules are changing so no idea what the score is but would just suggest you be careful with the stamp. finding that every little extra helps now I'm on the pensh myself, not entitled to any assistances, regarded as too rich.