WikiWirral yrs online 24/7 365 days a year.
Forum Statistics
Forums65
Topics76,495
Posts1,034,103
Members14,884
Most Online80,173
Apr 25th, 2025
Who's Online Now
11 members (3 invisible), 16,824 guests, and 796 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Top Posters
sunnyside 45,164
MattLFC 22,315
Mark 21,269
granny 17,811
_Ste_ 16,347
Newest Members
David_Roberts, PostNB, Gemnm, HelenDobby, CloverBee
14,884 Registered Users
New General Forums
Cammell Laird Film - Old Ships & Hardships
by David_Roberts - 16th Jul 2025 5:03pm
Cammell Laird Film - Old Ships & Hardships
by David_Roberts - 16th Jul 2025 5:00pm
Subscriptions to posts?
by nickaxe - 5th Jul 2025 12:33pm
Moan about the Weather Page
by RUDEBOX - 1st Jul 2009 1:31pm
New Wirral History
Hoylake Parade School tragedy
by chris58 - 16th Jul 2025 5:30pm
Removed Mother from Grave
by bert1 - 29th Jun 2025 6:44am
Park Primary School Circa Mid to Late 1960s
by _natabb96 - 26th Jun 2025 9:33pm
Birkenhead Union Workhouse
by bert1 - 28th May 2025 1:50pm
Top Posters(30 Days)
bert1 12
joney 2
Topic Replies
Hoylake Parade School tragedy
by chris58 - 16th Jul 2025 5:30pm
Cammell Laird Film - Old Ships & Hardships
by David_Roberts - 16th Jul 2025 5:02pm
boxing club well lane
by bert1 - 12th Jul 2025 4:45am
Chat : Wirral Pubs Past & Present
by diggingdeeper - 10th Jul 2025 12:57am
132 Central Hotel
by joney - 8th Jul 2025 9:02am
White House, Childer Thornton
by bert1 - 8th Jul 2025 7:38am
Removed Mother from Grave
by bert1 - 4th Jul 2025 10:30am
Family Alldis
by bert1 - 2nd Jul 2025 6:54pm
July
M T W T F S S
1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30 31
Top Likes Received (30 Days)
bert1 1
Philip 1
Top Likes Received
bert1 29
Mark 4
casper 4
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#418067 4th Jul 2010 1:05pm
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,355
Snodvan Offline OP
Forum Addict
OP Offline
Forum Addict
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,355
The old laptop was getting very slow so I decided to save all the personal files (photos, videos and outlook mail, really nothing else) and then to reload Windows XP using the Recovery CD provided by the machine manufacturer.

Machine is Gericom Hummer originally bought from Aldi (around 9 years ago). It has Pentium 4 and a nominal 60gig hard disk

Fair enough with all the personal stuff saved on an external hard disk (and having done a "save everything" using the XP Files and Settings transfer Wizard" just to be sure) I put the Recovery Disk in the drive and re-booted

All seemed to go OK with appropriate screens showing loading XP and for entering user names etc - and finally I get to a Windows page and log on as one of the two nominated users

Remembering that the recovery disk only loads Win XP with SP1 and that I have not added ANY other programs - I look at "properties" for C: AND AM CONCERNED TO FIND

Total capacity 56 Gb
Used 43.5 Gb
Free 12.5 Gb

WHAT is using up all my disk space ????

If I look at the directory structure for drive C: then I note THREE entries for Windows

Windows - 6.25Gb created 17 Jan 2004
Windows.0 - 959MB created today July 4th 2010
Windows.1 - 2.4 Gb created yesterday 3rd July

(Yes, I DID try this reload job yesterday - saw the missing C: drive space and thought I had done something "wrong" so I reloaded it all again today)

If I look at "Properties" for Documents and Settings this
shows a total of 29.1 Gb which seems rather a lot

If I look at the sizes of the individual folders within Documents and Settings these are
Admin - minor size
PersonA - 4.3 Gb
PersonA.Gericom - 2.35 Gb
PersonA.Gericom.000 - 1 Mb
All users - 18.1 GB
All Users. Windows.0 - 5.38 Gb
All Users.Windows.1 - 500 Mb
PersonB - 3.51 Gb
PersonB.Temp - 230 Mb
Owner - 269 Mb

And if I look at the total size of Program Files on drive C: it is 4.13 Gb

Summat is wrong and I do not know why

Could it be that the reload of Windows did not delete the original copy of Windows XP but has simply have added another one?

Having only 12Gb of free space on the disk is daft because I have yet to load Service Pack 3 and my usual software - and I TOOK OFF more than 12 Gb of files onto the external hard disk before I started !!!

Help

Confused idiot

Snod


5 Precepts of Buddhism seem appropriate. Refrain from taking life. Refrain from taking that which is not given. Refrain from misconduct. Refrain from lying. Refrain from intoxicants which lead to loss of mindfulness
Google Ads
Snodvan #418072 4th Jul 2010 2:20pm
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,631
Forum Master
Offline
Forum Master
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,631
There are different settings on the "Restore"/"Reload" screens, as the amount you have extra is broadly similar to the amount you moved to an external drive then it could be that you chose a "Non-Destructive" recovery.
This basically means that Windows has been completely re-installed but that your files have been saved (usually under the folder Windows.old but not always)
Your choices are to either be grateful that you don't have to copy them all back again, or to Re-Install again using the Full or Destructive Install.

This IS just an educated guess without seeing seeing it, might also suggest using the chkdsk command "just" in case your hard drive is developing bad sectors.

Hope this helps


TheDr #418082 4th Jul 2010 4:20pm
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,355
Snodvan Offline OP
Forum Addict
OP Offline
Forum Addict
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,355
Thanks Doc

At one point there was a screen that listed the drives (only one ie C:) in a box and indicated to press
Enter to load windows
D to delete
there was a third option but I cant remember what that was now

I just pressed Enter but I am wondering if "D" for delete means it will delete all on drive C: before loading Windows???

Humm - think you may be getting a visit/ job - like SOON.

I don't mind paying - so long as I can WATCH and work out where I was going wrong

Ta.

Snod


5 Precepts of Buddhism seem appropriate. Refrain from taking life. Refrain from taking that which is not given. Refrain from misconduct. Refrain from lying. Refrain from intoxicants which lead to loss of mindfulness
TheDr #418089 4th Jul 2010 5:18pm
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 211
Addict
Offline
Addict
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 211
Originally Posted by TheDr
Your choices are to either be grateful that you don't have to copy them all back again, or to Re-Install again using the Full or Destructive Install.


I think Windows.old folder being created only came in from Vista upwards, and the OP is on XP. However, if that was the case, a full reinstall is not necessary to delete Windows.old files, running Disk Cleanup would remove it easily for you.

Back to the OP's problem, it does sound like you may have installed Windows twice. You should have, as you say, pressed D to delete the partition and for it to be formatted clean. I think, on XP, you will just have to do a clean install, making sure that all partitions are deleted. I think it should say C: Unallocated Space when it is ready.

peodude #418101 4th Jul 2010 6:36pm
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,355
Snodvan Offline OP
Forum Addict
OP Offline
Forum Addict
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,355
We can but try - fingers and toes crossed

Snod


5 Precepts of Buddhism seem appropriate. Refrain from taking life. Refrain from taking that which is not given. Refrain from misconduct. Refrain from lying. Refrain from intoxicants which lead to loss of mindfulness
Snodvan #418113 4th Jul 2010 8:11pm
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,631
Forum Master
Offline
Forum Master
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,631
Ahhhh, got it, I thought you meant you had an all singing all dancing recovery CD, it sounds as if you have a copy of XP with the drivers on it (hopefully)

Ok, the blue screen you came to with the options was showing you any/all drives, including if your drive was split and had a hidden partition (from what you are saying it doesn't). It then gave you the option of where to install Windows, what you did was to re-install it over the top of the origional one, keeping all your files (this is a useful trick when registry gets corrupt).
What you ned to do is to choose Delete Partion, it will then ask you to press a key (L I think) to confirm. You will then be asked if you want to intall or make a partition (you dont) and to press Enter to continue.
Options of which fromat to use NTFS or Fat32, use NTFS, and Full or Fast Format. Fast will do a quick format and then install your OS, Full will actually check the drive for errors and bad sectors before it installs, you don't need to do anything untill iy starts asking for Country and Time etc, one just takes longer to get there but does warn you if the whole thing is pointless as your drive is dying...

You can do it....go on

TheDr #418115 4th Jul 2010 8:19pm
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,355
Snodvan Offline OP
Forum Addict
OP Offline
Forum Addict
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,355
I'm DOING it

I crossed my fingers and opted for "D" to delete everything on drive C - and then did the other NTFS selection bit etc

At this very moment drive C is being reformatted

I do not know whether the Gericom Recovery Disk contains all the drivers - but anyway I have the original Gericom-supplied Drivers CD

I will report when all done - or shout if it don't work, but I think it will

Wiki IT Help wins again I think

Snod


5 Precepts of Buddhism seem appropriate. Refrain from taking life. Refrain from taking that which is not given. Refrain from misconduct. Refrain from lying. Refrain from intoxicants which lead to loss of mindfulness
Snodvan #418460 6th Jul 2010 10:09pm
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,355
Snodvan Offline OP
Forum Addict
OP Offline
Forum Addict
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,355
All working FINE now

Thanks folks!

(Now have three more machines to wipe & reload)

Snod


5 Precepts of Buddhism seem appropriate. Refrain from taking life. Refrain from taking that which is not given. Refrain from misconduct. Refrain from lying. Refrain from intoxicants which lead to loss of mindfulness

Moderated by  Mark 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
Hoylake Parade School tragedy
by chris58 - 16th Jul 2025 5:30pm
Cammell Laird Film - Old Ships & Hardships
by David_Roberts - 16th Jul 2025 5:02pm
Family Alldis
by Alldis - 2nd Jul 2025 6:15pm
Removed Mother from Grave
by bert1 - 29th Jun 2025 6:44am
For Sale & Free
Member Spotlight
diggingdeeper
diggingdeeper
Wirral
Posts: 14,518
Joined: July 2008
Today's Birthdays
There are no members with birthdays on this day.
New Wirral Info
Family Alldis
by Alldis - 2nd Jul 2025 6:15pm
Montpellier Crescent
by robin47 - 8th Jun 2025 4:36pm
News : New Topics
Cammell Laird Film - Old Ships & Hardships
by David_Roberts - 16th Jul 2025 5:02pm
New Ferry regeneration
by Excoriator - 16th Mar 2025 4:22pm
Lucy Letby
by diggingdeeper - 16th Dec 2024 7:16pm
New Enthusiast Forums
Popular Topics(Views)
10,434,724 CW Chat room thread
5,668,410 WIKI WALK CHAT
4,484,745 Spotted!
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5