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If your needed as a volunteer why can't they pay you or someone to do the job. I just wonder if there were no volunteers available, would they have to turn it into paid employment, It seems to me that a lot of paid jobs in this country are lost to unpaid volunteers.


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Yes quite possibly! What a small world it is! I've been there a few times over the past few weeks - in Y4, Y6 and I was in Y3 on Tuesday afternoon.
So far I'm not sure when I'm in again but I'm sure I will be!

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We hear on the news that they're screaming out for teachers - there was an ad campaign on the TV only this year.
Am I right in thinking that areas like Wirral that is probably more middle class than inner city Liverpool don't have a teacher shortage but the inner city does????


This is a genuine question not a critism of anyone.

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I hear it all the time - I don't know where they're crying out for teachers because North West has a surplus of teachers and hardly any jobs....??? Believe me I am as confused as the next person? There are more jobs as you start to hit Manchester way but even they are not great in number, and of course then you have graduates from that area who also need jobs like Wirral, Cheshire, Liverpool etc.

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Thanks Christine
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Originally Posted by Softy_Southerner
Thanks Christine
Good to know they wasted money on a TV campaign which was not needed mad

If it was needed, you can guarantee it would'nt be provided! The amount of money that is wasted on schools under this government is shocking, the report leaked by the BBC really shows what a massive financial mess the system is in, and how incompetent school's are at managing finances.

It's only going to get harder and harder for teachers as a result of that report. Quite funny how the report was originally commissioned and intended to be published upon completion, but Labour tried, and successfully managed for some time, to keep it out of the public domain.

Thank god for the BBC.

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There's such a big pressure from Ofsted too - who also seem to make a decision as soon as they reach the school gates and then go all out to prove their point and start destroying GOOD teachers careers. This didn't happen to me, my temporary contract ended at the school before the Ofsted, but I am still in contact to those who still work there, those who are having their lives/careers ruined.
Maybe I'd best be careful what I say!! smile

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I got overlooked for a part time position once because they had some volunteer teacher in doing supply FOR FREE! More fool him and the school shouldn't have used him like that. Anyway he got a job there eventually and apparently he wasn't the greatest teacher on the planet...just saying ha ha smile

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Originally Posted by christineedge
I got overlooked for a part time position once because they had some volunteer teacher in doing supply FOR FREE! More fool him and the school shouldn't have used him like that. Anyway he got a job there eventually and apparently he wasn't the greatest teacher on the planet...just saying ha ha smile


And there lies the problem with some volunteer work, while there are volunteers, those jobs will never be turned into paid employment.


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You could consider a Masters - pretty expensive but it like a pay-as-you-go and you have 5 years to complete. Or a Research post - I don't know what speciality you took but there may be jobs in that area. Have you tried approaching schools direct, there are sometimes jobs available, part-time to start. Perhaps consider GDDR for help. You must be looking in the Times Ed but there are colleges who recruit lecturers (good money for new starters). If you register with supply agencies you could strike lucky and end up with a permanent contract until something better comes along. Good luck.

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Going by some of the articles I am reading in the press I would say that these teaching assistants may be a source of the problem. It looks lik heads, who now have to do their own budgets I believe,are taking on assistants as a cheaper option than taking on qualified teachers. Just an observation, I am not saying the assistants don't do a good job. Pre-empting any stick from assistants.


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What are these teaching assistants all about, we never had them and i don't think i was ever in a class with less than 40 kids.


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And that bert, is why we can read, write and add 2 and 2 and get 4, well most of the time anyway.


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And that bert, is why we can read, write and add 2 and 2 and get 4, well most of the time anyway.


I've always prefered the basics. No idea why I was taught latin or algebra. Never been in ASDA and had to price a tin of soup by adding letters of the alphabet together.

Right, I am off to tersus epulae...

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Could never figure out why, when my wife gave me alphabet spaghetti it always spelt prick.


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